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LexAir

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Does anyone know what the current policy is on jumpseating on international flights (assuming it is a US carrier) ? Is the carribean the same policy?

Thanks for any info...
 
LexAir said:
Does anyone know what the current policy is on jumpseating on international flights (assuming it is a US carrier) ? Is the carribean the same policy?

Thanks for any info...

Make sure you are on the carriers list of airlines approved to JS on them. Can't speak for every carrier, but I have JS'ed on DAL Int'l twice now. You have to be passport listed at a minimum of 75 mins prior to deparure time. Don't just walk up to the gate and ask for the form. You have to go to the ticket/service counter and request them to do this for you. I did it at the Internatinal terminal in ATL. After that, go to the gate and it's business as usual. When leaving the foreign country check in at the ticket counter atleat 2 hr's early. Same deal, you have to be passport listed on the way out. Get there early, because the agent may be unfamiliar with pulling up the list of approved airlines to JS. Also, you may have to go a seperate location and pay an extorion, I mean JS tax to exit the counrty. After this, you might have to get a represnetitve from the airline to escort you through security, so plan accordingly.

The best part was, I got business class on 2 out of the 4 legs and they treated me awsome each time. It's like being at home, you sit there in a big chair and watch TV or play video gamess for 8 hours. If fact it's better than home, you don't have to get up to get your own food or beverage, somebody brings it to you.

I've only gone to Ireland and Spain, if you got questins about these 2 places, PM me.
 
dojetdriver said:
If fact it's better than home, you don't have to get up to get your own food or beverage, somebody brings it to you.

sounds like your wife/gf is out of their warranty coverage. time to trade in for a new one.

i jumpseat on NWA and UAL internationally all the time. no problems. just show up early, like you really wanna go. i always show up about 2 hours early, especially at the foreign airports (sometimes 2.5h) to handle any problems like "whats a jumpseater?", or any language issues.

there arent nearly as many jumpseaters internationally as there are domestically. so you will encounter some agents that dont know what you're trying to do because they've never seen it before (requires a supervisor or experienced co-worker), or they only know it by the company's own name given to the process. for NWA is "xcm", for UAL is "omc". if they give you a confused look when you say "jumpseat", it usually goes away when you use the company's own terminology.

there are other delays besides them digging thru their manuals to figure out what to do and calling everyone on the phone. sometimes they'll make you go find the dispatch office and locate the pilots in there and get the forms signed, come back to the ticket counter and check in again.. this one can make for a long delay.

they also seem to get confused as to how to handle you. i have been handled so many different ways on the same airline at the same airport, its like they're reinventing the jumpseat every time.

good luck with your travels...
 
Watch out who you jumpseat on. NWA does not allow cockpit jumpseaters, nor can you ride in the fa's jumpseat. I know this for a fact because I was just fired for trying. Even if the captain says you can you better make **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** sure that airplane has a seat in the back. We did not even move and the ticket agent removed us from the flight. The NWA captain even called my sorry mf'n piece of sh*T no ba1l's having cheif pilot and told him that we were being proffesional in asking for the jumpseat. I hope 9E goes bankrupt. Just my .2 cents worth. other than that Cancun has very cold coronas and hot talent.

bap
 
You can ride in the cockpit to get out of the US (other countries don't care) but you can't to come into the US; it's a department of homeland security thing. After 09/11 they made that a rule that no jumpseat can be occupied for all airplanes entering the country. The only way to "jumpseat" back into the US is on a passenger seat and that goes for every airline not just NWA.


Buck
 
Also be aware of different procedures for boarding at various foreign airports. I have found that Narita and Nagoya will often bus pax to the aircraft somewhere on the ramp, as there is not enough actual gates at the terminal. This can make it impossible to get your jumpseat form signed by the captain if he is already at the plane. Try convincing the gate agent who speaks very little english (my japanese sucks) to let you on the bus to the aircraft in order to get your form signed. It won't happen, so just make sure you arrive to the gate plenty early and watch for the flight crew to arrive. I have always found the crews to be very friendly, and quite helpful in dealing with gate agents who don't understand the jumpseating procedures.
 
BrokeAssPilot said:
Watch out who you jumpseat on. NWA does not allow cockpit jumpseaters

no one allows cockpit jumpseaters, unless you work for that company or both companies are on cass. i find it hard to believe that someone got fired for jumpseating. you fill out the form, get it signed and take a seat in the back.. pretty simple.

whereamI said:
Also be aware of different procedures for boarding at various foreign airports. I have found that Narita and Nagoya will often bus pax to the aircraft somewhere on the ramp, as there is not enough actual gates at the terminal. This can make it impossible to get your jumpseat form signed by the captain if he is already at the plane. Try convincing the gate agent who speaks very little english (my japanese sucks) to let you on the bus to the aircraft in order to get your form signed. It won't happen

very true. i noticed they do a lot of bussing for UAL at NRT. although when i had to deal with the bussing to the jumpseat game, i didnt have a problem with the guy running out on the bus to get my stuff signed for me (no japanese sprechen). it was a little nerve racking tho as it was down to the wire with my getting on the plane. any later and i would have had to board the plane via the wheel well.
 
dash, it was hard for me to believe also.

but, myself and a friend were both fired for trying not even doing.

Pinnacle is the place to be if you are going to f%ck up one of there planes because they will tell you " it's ok stuff happens and you keep your job"

But if you don't do anything then you get fired. Our dumba$$ cheif pilot told me that 9e pilots are not allowed to jumpseat. Anyway I have since interviewed and been hired at another place and the interviewers laughed at the reason, and agreed that Terry Me##ord at pinnacle has an ego problem because he is pissed off he's almost 60 and still at pinnacle.
 
Hard to believe yeah! But congrats on getting hired somewhere else that will make you more happy, it is always good to hear that something good happened in the end.

Buck



BrokeAssPilot said:
dash, it was hard for me to believe also.

but, myself and a friend were both fired for trying not even doing.

Pinnacle is the place to be if you are going to f%ck up one of there planes because they will tell you " it's ok stuff happens and you keep your job"

But if you don't do anything then you get fired. Our dumba$$ cheif pilot told me that 9e pilots are not allowed to jumpseat. Anyway I have since interviewed and been hired at another place and the interviewers laughed at the reason, and agreed that Terry Me##ord at pinnacle has an ego problem because he is pissed off he's almost 60 and still at pinnacle.
 
Be aware that you may have to pay a small amount of tax while jumpseating internationally. It doesn't amount to much but be sure you have a credit card and/or checkbook handy.

FWIW I've jumpseated PDX-NRT-SIN and back on NWA and was treated quite well.
 

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