Jumpseat on Midwest Airlines?

[RocketRob]

Anybody know off hand what Midwest's jumpseat policy is?

Thanks

 

[FlightTraker]

Just rode them last night. I am pretty sure they only take one. A captain wrote a pass so I could ride along. I have been put on as a non-rev so two offline jumpseaters could get on before. Last night the gate agent told me sometimes they take more than one, depends on the captain. A nice group of pilots, I really enjoy meeting them. Just my experience, maybe a Midwest pilot could shed some more light..........


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[Skygod]

YX jumpseating

I'm not a YX pilot . . . but I live in Milwaukee and commute on Midwest every week.

Go to the gate, smile, and ask for the jumpseat. If you want to make the gate agent happy, you have listed yourself by calling resevations at 1-800-452-2022 (but not needed nor expected). You will get to fill out a simple form, circling ACM. Your ID will be examined by the gate agent.

Of course post 9/11 only Midwest and Skyway pilots can sit in the cockpit jumpseat, so you need a spare seat in the cabin. Good news is that if two Midwest pilots turn up on a nearly full flight, one can go in the cockpit and one can sit in a FA cabin jumpseat. And this has happened to get me to work, for which I am greatly thankful.

The rule is one jumpseater per plane. But the folks at Midwest are very nice, and it is possible that flexable travel arangments can be made. But you can make things easy by buying an ID 90 and using that if need be.

Introduce yourself to the captain, and of course be ready to show certificate and medical if he/she does not know you. Both pilots may be wearing four stripes due to the extensive backward movement, every FO could have been a captain prior to 9/11.

Still cookies on every flight.

Crew cleans the plane at the end of non-terminating flights.

Great people.

Hope this helps a little.

 

[Lindy]

I wasn't going to say anything, but....

Furloughed YX Pilot.

The aforementioned information is 100% correct -- list yourself and life is always better. The crews at Midwest are AWESOME!!



As for a jumpseat on Skyway/Midwest Connect -- I would definitely find another route!!

Here is my story:

Furloughed YX Pilot
Listed
Jumpseating / Non-reving from MKE to GRR
Last flight out
328 Jet
THE GATE AGENT CAME TO THE A/C AND PULLED ME OFF BECAUSE OF A "WEIGHT" PROBLEM.

My issue: The Captain could have called me to the cockpit and told me that he couldn't take me. He could have had the F/A bring me to the cockpit and told me that he couldn't take me. He could have had the F/O (who recognized me) bring me up front and tell me that they were weight restricted. He did NONE of the above. I expected professional courtesy, which I did not receive. (As for time constraints, it would have been quicker to call me upfront and ask me to leave....then to call the gate agent and have him come to the a/c and ask me to leave because I am the only non-rev on the flight. )

(I will not discuss the short route and the fact that there were 4 empty seats on the a/c when I was removed due to a "weight" restriction because I do not know where their alternate was and/or if they were misfueled, etc., but in my honest opinion, the "weight" restriction did NOT make any sense. Anyone w/ 328 Jet time, please weigh in on this.......pun intended). I believe this event occured before the "new" weights of passengers....
anyone at Skyway know when we all gained weight??

I guess I should stop eating those Krispy Kremes


On a side note: I have NEVER had an issue jumpseating/non-revving on any carrier. I was appropriately dressed. I acted professionally. Maybe it was the fact I was excited that I just obtained my 737 Type Rating -- yes -- the ink was still wet on the certificate (and was trying to visit my family -- who I hadn't spent any time with for months.....) had something to do with HIS professionalism. Didn't see my family. Instead, went to the city where I am presently employed via ground transportation.

I am extremely disappointed in my treatment, especially being part of the "Midwest Family" -- as a furloughee.

 

[StaySeated]

Ouch

Sorry to hear about your situation, but lets not write off the whole fricken airline!

I am not sure what the heck the 737 type had to do with anything. Who cares what you have a type rating in?

As for the new weights, Skyway/Midwest Connect was forced to use 200/195 immediately following the Air Midwest accident. Our FSDO required us to due a survey and the new weights were in effect roughly three months prior to the rest of the industry. (It was the fastest I have seen the FAA act on anything, ever) The new weights really take a toll on the dornier, especially the "lite" version, of which we have 7. It is not uncommon to be over weight with as few as 24 pax and a normal amount of bags/cargo.

I wish that you could have made the flight, and I know that there are a ton of commuters on Skyway (myself included) and we always try to go the extra mile for fellow jumpseaters.

Our policy is still the same, we take as many jumpseaters as we can. Sometimes we can take 32, sometimes none. But we are happy to help whenever we can. So have another donut and don't hesitate to jump with us in the future!

 

[Lindy]

I understood the "weight" issue and was interested in knowing when the weights went into effect at SkyWay.

However, I thought that the Captain did not show me any professional courtesy when he had the gate agent remove me from the flight.

This issue here is how I was treated, not the fact that he left me behind.

As for jumpseating on Skyway, look at the a/c flown -- 1900s and the DoJet. If both are limited as to the amount of pax & bags to be taken due to the new weight requirement, Iwould highly suggest finding alternative travel. Isn't the 1900 restricted to 16 pax now? Regarding the DoJet -- how many pax can you take without being weight restricted for future reference?

I jumpseated religiously on you guys when I worked at MidEx. I always had a pleasent experience -- even when I couldn't make a flight because the 1900 was full out of MKE to GRR -- or vice versa.

 

[Birddog]

The amount of pax we can carry on the 1900 varies in direct relation to the amount of fuel we need and the amount of bags and cargo. If we need 2 alt's, guess what, that may require a lot of fuel and we can't take as many people, even on a shorter route. There are time when we can still take 19, but everything has to be going right that day. On the 1900 we run into issues with the zero fuel weight a lot more frequently now than we used to. Why the Capt didn't talk to you directly, I can only guess. It seems like a relatively minor offense, compared to some of the ones I have seen in the past, however. Relax a little and let it go, you'll live longer.

 

[350DRIVER]

My issue: The Captain could have called me to the cockpit and told me that he couldn't take me. He could have had the F/A bring me to the cockpit and told me that he couldn't take me. He could have had the F/O (who recognized me) bring me up front and tell me that they were weight restricted. He did NONE of the above. I expected professional courtesy, which I did not receive. (As for time constraints, it would have been quicker to call me upfront and ask me to leave....then to call the gate agent and have him come to the a/c and ask me to leave because I am the only non-rev on the flight. )

Gal-

It is not the captain's responsibility to "have" to do this contrary to how you think it "lacked" professionalism. Quite frankly I would have done the exact same thing as he did if I was the captain. As a former Delta Airlines gate agent I would be asked by the flight crew to remove a j/s in the back or non rev and I had absolutely no problem doing this and like I said if I was the captain I would have done the same by getting a gate agent to do this. Neither the captain or the first officer are even expected to do this, that is why their are gate agents who work the flights.
We had quite a few problems on the EMB120's (HOU) on what the captain could/could not take in the summer months. min/max eghhh

don't rank on an entire airline just cause ya got a bug up your a$$ since you didn't get "professional courtesy" that you think you deserved.


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[Lindy]

As a furloughed MidEx pilot I expected "company pilots" to put forth the extra professional courtesy. I guess this expectation was overrated.

As for writing off the entire company -- I am standing by the statement that I would find another way to travel (mostly due to the weight restrictions).

As for denying jumpeating -- I have ALWAYS spoken to the pilot and explained the situation.

Obviously we have different views.

As for your comment about "don't rank on an entire airline just cause ya got a bug up your a$$ since you didn't get "professional courtesy" that you think you deserved" -- I still expect courtesy from the crew and if they cannot provide said courtesy, then I will continue to have these opinions.