Jumpseat Intl.

[pilot772]

this may have been covered but are we allowed to jumpseat from an intl. city back into the states. Just in the cabin is what I am curious about

thanks

 

[purduej]

Depends on which airline you are with and which airline you are trying to jumpseat on. Delta and Northwest offer intl jumpseating to most other airlines I believe. United as well (at least for UAX carriers). USAir allowed me to jumpseat back from Europe without any trouble when I was working as a USAir Express pilot. Just be sure to pay your taxes before you go to check-in. I have always done this at the ticket counter. Just give yourself plenty of time as it sometimes takes over an hour (Australia) to simply pay your taxes and get the paperwork for the jumpseat if the agents working have never dealt with a jumpseater before.

If your airline has reciprocals with Polar or Atlas, be sure to check them out, they'll walk you through the whole thing. Plus you're going to get a better seat and no whiny passengers. Also, I've heard that some European carriers will allow you to ride jumpseat, even without a reciprocal agreement. I have no idea how that works though.

First things first though: call your jumpseat coordinator and ask them who you can jumpseat international on. Good luck!

 

[your_dreamguy]

Are you sure?

Hey Purduej,

No disrespect but I've heard otherwise, especially from United. Based on my experience, getting back to the states from an international destination, you can only ride in an open pax seat and not up front. When I jumpseated to Australia on United a few months ago, the United flight crew specifically told me, cabin seats only going internationally inbound or outbound. In fact, even other United flight crew members needed a cabin seat on an international JS (according to what I was told). I don't know if things have changed since then but that's what I've heard.

 

[Quimby]

I bet trying to JS intl' right now is a real treat. Good luck.

 

[skypine69]

Offline pilots MAY NOT sit in the actual on a flight from the US or to the US. They may sit in the jumpseat on a flight between 2 foreign countries. i.e. NRT-BKK. Online pilots may sit in the actual provided they have listed with their company prior to the flight, and i think it has to be 24 hours prior. Airlines have different agreements regarding international jumpseat. Some may allow it for some airlines but not others. Again, you MUST have a seat in the cabin when jumpseating offline.

 

[h82land]

offline meaning? personal travel? sorry..new to the j/s world

 

[pilot772]

Offline pilots MAY NOT sit in the actual on a flight from the US or to the US. They may sit in the jumpseat on a flight between 2 foreign countries. i.e. NRT-BKK. Online pilots may sit in the actual provided they have listed with their company prior to the flight, and i think it has to be 24 hours prior. Airlines have different agreements regarding international jumpseat. Some may allow it for some airlines but not others. Again, you MUST have a seat in the cabin when jumpseating offline.

So is online A UAL pilot on a UAL bird, or can a UAL-express occupy a UAL jumpseat on a INTL. flight?

 

[purduej]

your_dreamguy,
You're absolutely right about that, I meant jumpseating as in the reciprocal agreement but not the actual jumpseat. This way you can get around the non-rev payments. I have only riden in the cockpit on cargo planes since they don't have a true "cabin" seperated from the deck (by something besides a curtain).

As for offline, a UAX pilot jumpseating on United mainline flight is an offline pilot. Only United pilots would be online.

Skypine69, do you mean that if I'm in, say, London and I want to go to Prague, I could ask a British Airways agent for the jumpseat just like I would in the US? I have always wanted to try this.

 

[Kenny]

Jumpseating as we know it is very much an Americanism. In that you can't turn up at the gate for a foreign carrier and ask for the jumpseat like we would here.

There are exceptions in very rare cases where a captain might take pity on you or you actually know the crew but then you'll have to buy a ticket anyway.