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John Kerry's America
"To attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia, or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom . . . is . . . the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart." It is then, we reason retrospectively, not alone an act of hypocrisy that caused the joint chiefs of staff and the heads of the civilian departments engaged in strategic calculations to make the recommendations they made over the past ten years, to three Presidents of the United States: it was not merely hypocrisy, but criminal hypocrisy. The nature of that hypocrisy? "All," Mr. Kerry sums up, "that we were told about the mystical war against Communism."
 
John Kerry quickly proclaims "I am a war HERO!" Yet he rushes back to the United States, throws his medals away (a direct quote from him) and protests the war in Washington. Hummm.....a Patriot?

Kerry claims to have "camped out" on the mall with fellow vets during the protest, yet others tell of the Georgetown penthouse he stayed at the entire time. While other vets were protesting in tattered clothes or fading uniforms, Kerry was out there in designer style suits.

Kerry claims he's for the "average" working class American while he takes a second mortgage on his $12,000,000 house and his Renoir art collection. Yes, I'm sure he really knows how the "average" workers feels.

Kerry has said he will return to the Clinton era policy on terrorism...that is to bring home all the troops and send out the lawyers to "legally" bring down terrorism. Yep...that old idea worked well, didn't it?!?!?:confused:

Get real here. This guy is a walking, talking, breathing hypocrit. Uh, he voted for the war (both Gulf War I and II) yet it is now Bush's fault? Really!:confused:

I'd rather see Lieberman as President LONG before Kerry...and this from a lifelong Republican!

Let the debate begin (continue).

2000Flyer
 
Actually he did not even throw his own medals, they were someone elses. He put his up on display on his wall :)
 
THE REAL KERRY

By HOWIE CARR
February 5, 2004 -- BOSTON

ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents, breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before the bill arrives.

The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"

And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress.

Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest.

The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).

It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought it new, for cash.



Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and "the overprivileged."

"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.

But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).

Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo Emerson's daughter was marrying down.

At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.

Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.

Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might be "the freeloading years."

For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.

In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster, and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."

Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.

The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked him the eternal question.

"Do you know who I am?"

"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."

John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.

Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has been covering John Kerry for 25 years.
 
AP Exclusive: Three times, Kerry nominations and donations coincided
JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writers
Thursday, February 5, 2004
©2004 Associated Press

URL: sfgate.com/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/05/politics0226EST0429.DTL

(02-05) 23:26 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

At least three times in his Senate career, Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry has recommended individuals for positions at federal home loan banks just before or after receiving political contributions from the nominees, records show.

In one case, Kerry wrote to the Federal Housing Finance Board to urge the reappointment of a candidate just one day before a Kerry campaign committee received $1,000 from the nominee, the records show.

"One has nothing to do with the other," said Marvin Siflinger, who contributed around the time of Kerry's Oct. 1, 1996, recommendation that he be reappointed for another term to the board.

Kerry's office, like the nominees, insists the timing of the donations and the nominations was a coincidence.

"Sen. Kerry recommends dozens of very qualified individuals each year without regard to their politics or contributions. In this case each of the individuals were highly qualified for the jobs they were appointed to and served with distinction," spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said.

"John Kerry is grateful for their support, and we should be thanking them for their service, not questioning it," she added. "The timing of the contributions was completely circumstantial."

But a longtime government watchdog says it is common for Washington appointees to donate just before or after they are nominated.

"This is just business as usual in Washington," said Larry Noble, the former chief lawyer for the Federal Election Commission who now heads the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. "Kerry is out there saying he is not being part of that game, yet he is the product of the same money system."

With Kerry more vocally portraying himself on the presidential campaign trail as an opponent of special interest money in Washington, scrutiny of his dealings with donors and special interests has increased among his rivals and the news media.

Noble said while Kerry long has advocated campaign finance reform, he also has benefited from the big money system he now distances himself from on the campaign trail. "It's like a game where you say the people who support me just want good government, but the people who support my opponent are special interests," he said.

When he first ran for the Senate, Kerry promised voters he would carefully choose nominees on merit.

"I will act as a persistent watchdog over presidential appointments to ensure that only people of integrity, ability and commitment hold positions of power in our national government," Kerry wrote in a June 1984 fund-raising appeal.

All three of the people Kerry recommended got the positions they sought on various boards of Federal Home Loan Banks in Boston and New York that provide money for home mortgages.

Kerry's recommendations went to the five-member Federal Housing Finance Board, the regulatory body that votes on the final selections. Recommendations come from members of Congress, the White House and trade associations.

Siflinger, who was a state housing finance official when Kerry was Massachusetts lieutenant governor, was first appointed to the bank board in Boston during President George H.W. Bush's presidency and in 1996 sought Kerry's help to get reappointed.

"You normally seek the support of prominent people who are respected. Certainly in this instance I sought the support of Senator Kerry and I sought support of other members of the congressional delegation," Siflinger said in an interview Thursday.

Siflinger made his first donation to Kerry's Senate campaign committee in 1995 more than a year before his reappointment, according to Federal Election Commission records. His most recent donation to Kerry was several weeks ago, Siflinger said.

Investment banker Derek Bryson Park says it's "pure happenstance" that he made a pair of $1,000 donations to Kerry a month before the senator's Dec. 29, 1998, letter recommending Park for a position at the Federal Home Loan Bank of New York.

"I got assistance from both ... Democrats and Republicans" in attaining the bank board post, Park said.

The only political donations Park made to federal candidates around the period of his appointment were to Kerry, according to FEC records.

"I've been fortunate to be invited to Senator Kerry's home and we've had a number of meals together and get-togethers," said Park, who got to know Kerry through a longtime supporter of the senator.

Former congressional staffer Patrick Dober said that "there's absolutely no relationship" between his $408 donation nearly three months after Kerry's Oct. 9, 1998, recommendation to the federal bank board. Kerry's letter praised Dober for having "worked closely with my office" on "the banking crisis in the early 1990s."

At the time, Dober worked for Boston Capital, a real estate financing and investment firm co-founded by Kerry supporter Jack Manning. Manning, who has donated more than $800,000 to the Democratic causes over the past 14 years, gave $65,000 in 2001 and 2002 to a tax-exempt political group Kerry set up.

Dober says he thinks his $408 for tickets to a Kerry fund-raiser is the only contribution he's ever made to Kerry.

"There was a fund-raiser for Kerry and they had James Taylor and Robin Williams playing," Dober recalled. "My wife and I said this looks like fun. The tickets were a hundred bucks and a $2 service charge, so my wife and I went with another couple and I wrote the check."
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Associated Press writer Pete Yost contributed to this report.
 
I'm confused. Does being a "patriot" mean you have to be a blood-thirsty hawk? Does preferring peace to war automatically make you a traitor?
 
Typhoon1244 said:
I'm confused. Does being a "patriot" mean you have to be a blood-thirsty hawk? Does preferring peace to war automatically make you a traitor?

Typhoon,

To your first question...of course not. However, claiming "hero" status whilst tossing your medals on the ground, those medals you're so proud to brag about on the campaign stump, then yes, I do question your patriotism. To twice vote for war then to comdemn the sitting President for going to war, then yes, you are a hypocrit.

To your second question, no body questioned peace or war, nor did I claim he was a traitor. I'm not sure where that one came from.

2000Flyer
 
2000flyer said:
To your second question, no body questioned peace or war, nor did I claim he was a traitor. I'm not sure where that one came from.
It was an extension of the first question.

I don't know the details of the Kerry incident...but if someone came home from Vietnam and told the public "boy, that sucked! Let's not do that anymore," that wouldn't make them a traitor or hypocrite in my eyes.
 
Typhoon1244 said:
It was an extension of the first question.

I don't know the details of the Kerry incident...but if someone came home from Vietnam and told the public "boy, that sucked! Let's not do that anymore," that wouldn't make them a traitor or hypocrite in my eyes.

Typhoon, you misunderstand the statement. This man served his country in a time of war. He returned home and today proudly tells his audience that he threw his medals to the ground in disgust and openly opposed the war. However, a prime statement in his campaign is "I'm a war Hero!" Isn't that hypocrtical? Openly rant that you opposed the war and the acts of war veterans, don't come home and talk about it after being introduced as "An American War Hero". Seems he likes having it both ways. Trying to appease both sides, the right of center who agree with the actions we are forced to take today and the left who would rather sit aside and throw a few dollars in aide to try and fight a dispicable thug who doesn't think twice about killing people who disagree with him, or his son's who kill for sport.

Yes, war sucks. Killing people sucks. Being away from your family and friends for a year or more at a time sucks. Come home and complain about the trials of war. You can thank your soldier peers for that right, that freedom. But don't stand there running for the highest office in our great nation being introduced as some great war hero then tell me you threw your medals away because you were ashamed of them and the actions you took for your country. That only tells me you're just trying to please both sides to win votes, that you have no backbone to take a stand. Either he's a hero or an ashamed soldier, not both.

Personally, every soldier, sailor, airman and marine is a hero in my book. Whether you dodged the line of fire to save a fellow soldier; single handedly captured several of the enemy, repaired vehicles away from the battle, cooked a meal in a chow line, filed paperwork in some office. These men and women were asked by their country to do a job, sometimes a very dirty, heart-wrenching job. To think almost all came home, continued with their lives, rarely if ever talking about their experiences, and never, ever called themselves a "hero".

2000Flyer
 
Originally posted by 2000flyer
...a prime statement in [Kerry's] campaign is "I'm a war Hero!"
I've got to confess, I haven't been watching the Democrats that closely. Did Kerry really come out saying "I'm a war hero?" I find it hard to believe that kind of conceit would play well even with his more supportive audiences. (Calling yourself a "hero" ain't exactly humble.)

Did he really say that? What exactly did he say?
 
Kerry, like all Democrats, is anti-gun. That's all I need to know about him.

The far extreme right scares me almost as much as the liberals do, but till someone comes up with something better, I'm sticking with the party that stays out of my gun vault.

The insane Clinton Assault Weapon Ban of 1994 MUST go. It's typical of the feel good, do nothing legislature that Democrats try to jam down our throats, so they can go home at night and think they saved the country from it's own people.

The only good Democrats serve, is keeping Republicans on their toes, should they ever forget who it is they serve.

We just saw a Democrat governor defeat the concealed carry bill in our state. I must say as a gun rights activist, the eventual sunseting of the AW Bill of 94, was more of a priority to me than CCW. But it was funny watching the Democrats squirm.

This governor is going to get tossed out in the next election and here is what's so funny about his so called win over the CCW bill by veto. They ( the democrats ) had a chance of producing one of the most restrictive concealed carry laws ever designed. But, they eventually defeated the bill instead. Now the governor's term is up soon and he will be defeated. The Republicans will just bring the bill back, but it will be the Republican version. Less restrictive, more effective.

The Democrats had a chance to give the people what they wanted, they had a chance to have some control over it and make it as anally restrictive as they could make it. But no. They defeated the bill, and it will pass with ease during the next administration of our state. It will not be the Democrat version of the bill that prevails. It will be the Republican version.
 
FN FAL said:
Kerry, like all Democrats, is anti-gun.
All Democrats are anti-gun? Just like all Republicans are anti-abortion?

Wild exaggeration doesn't help credibility. (I know: I've been guilty of it before.)
 
hahaha...O.K. Insert the word "MOST"! :D

If it wasn't for the fact that there were a lot of Democrats FOR the CCW bill in our state, it would have never made a second chance at bat.

It was interesting to watch the whole process as it went along. As I said, CCW wasn't at the top of my list of must haves. The Governor won a small short term battle, but in the end they lost control over the issue in the long term. When the bill comes back, it will not be as restrictive as it could have been, had the Demcrats had a hand in getting it passed.

You are right, I must consider the Demcrats that were on the side of passing this CCW bill. Even if their ulterior motive was to have a hand in making it the most restrictive and un-effective CCW bill it could be.
 
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One of the reasons that I am looking hard at Edwards is that he is specific in his support for the 2nd Amendment. Also, because Republicans will control both houses of congress, a Democratic President will not be able to do anything radical. Finally, A Democratic President in 2004 means Hillary will not be able to run in 2008 like she is planning.

However, I will vote for Bush over Kerry without hesitation.
 
Good point 46 driver...Hillary absolutely, positively, MUST be kept out of the White House. Even If that means having a Democratic president. I don't know much about Edwards, but if he promises to allow the rediculous AW Bill of '94 to sunset and promises to not replace it with something even more ludicrust, I could see researching whether or not I could vote for him. Especially to keep Hillary out!
 
FN FAL said:
Kerry, like all Democrats, is anti-gun. That's all I need to know about him.
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So it's safe to say you're a single-issue type of voter.
 
GogglesPisano said:
So it's safe to say you're a single-issue type of voter.

I'm not a single issue voter but some things have precedence over others. In this case, guns (and the protection of the 2nd Amendment) are higher on my priority list than anything ALPA says or does.
 
Can someone tell me why my last post with a link to a Kerry article was removed from this thread?

Regards,
2000Flyer
 
Although it appears as though the Republicians will portray John Kerry as a Northeast, anti-American, liberal...nothing could be farther from the truth.

Democrat vs. Republician. Bush vs. Kerry. They are all one in the same. Dare I say American democracy is a sham?

The New York Times
February 7, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Kerry's Special Friends
By DAVID BROOKS

John Kerry has been railing against the special interests, and I don't think that's very nice because it implies that some people's interests are not so special. I like to think that everybody's interests are special in their own way.

What's more, I think Kerry knows this, because if you look over his long career, you see that he loves all our interests, big and small, near or far. For example, a Chinese businesswoman named Liu Chaoying dreamed of having her company listed on a U.S. stock exchange. That's certainly a special dream.

Maybe as a little girl she would come home from school, gather up her little dollies and tell them about her dream of ringing the bell to start the trading day, or of having little Lucite tombstones on her desk to mark her mergers and acquisitions. Maybe some of the other little girls in school told her she'd never have a company on a U.S. exchange, because you know how cruel little kids can be.

But she had an interest, and to her it was the most specialest interest in the world. And she kept at it. And that cute little girl grew up to become a lieutenant colonel in China's People's Liberation Army, which is a very special army, even measured against the armies of other human rights-violating dictatorships. And what's more, she had a $300,000 bank account with funds supplied by the head of Chinese intelligence, which is certainly quite special indeed.

And Liu came to America in search of her dream, for this is the nation of dreams. And she went to see a most special man named Johnny Chung. And in July 1996, according to Newsweek, Chung took Liu to see his special friend John Kerry about her dream, and Kerry recognized its specialness. So his aides faxed over a letter to the S.E.C. about the dream, and the very next day Liu and Chung had a private briefing with a senior S.E.C. official about making her special dream come true.

And then a few weeks after that, Johnny Chung threw a fund-raiser for John Kerry in Beverly Hills. And John Kerry came away with $10,000 in contributions, and I like to think they were very special contributions. I like to think they were written on special designer checks, maybe with rainbows or kittens or Chinese long-range missile designs shaded on the back, because special dreams deserve special checks, and when a man as special as John Kerry takes up an interest, I think that makes it a special interest all by itself.

Liu Chaoying's interest was not the only interest John Kerry took a special interest in. According to The Associated Press, Kerry took a special interest in the insurance giant American International Group. When Senator John McCain proposed legislation that would have ended a federal contracting loophole benefiting A.I.G., Kerry did not look away, as others might have done. A loophole may not seem like much to you and me, but to A.I.G. it was a very special loophole — the cuddly kind of loophole you can hold under the blankets and tell your secrets to late at night. And according to The A.P., John Kerry preserved the little loophole. And by sheer coincidence, A.I.G. donated $30,000 to help start Kerry's presidential campaign.

While sitting on the commerce and finance committees, John Kerry has seen many interests, and you could forgive him if he didn't think they were all special. But Kerry has raised more money from Washington lobbyists than any other senator. He's raised over $30 million over the past nine years, and you just ask the folks in the telecom industry if he doesn't make them feel special.

You just ask David Paul, one of the big figures in the savings and loan scandal, if Kerry didn't make him feel special. You just ask the high-tech executive Bob Majumder how special Kerry made him feel, at least until Majumder was charged with 40 counts of conspiracy, witness tampering, fraud, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions. You just ask the law firms, the brokerage houses, the oil companies, the H.M.O.'s and the drug companies, which have donated tens of thousands of dollars to Kerry.

Oh, he sometimes pretends that he doesn't care about our special interests. He puts on that callous populist facade. But deep down he cares. Maybe he cares too much. When he's out on the stump saying otherwise, he's just being a big old phony.
 

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