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Jetblue's New Terminal

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Congrats to the folks at B6. The almost billion dollar terminal to be funded over 34 year lease. The nice part is the old Terminal 5 (TWA) will be incorporated into the design, which keeps the historical people happy. I'm betting we will see more slots open up. NYC is not going to build this without giving B6 more options.

August 5, 2004

JetBlue to Build New Terminal at Kennedy

[size=-1]By THOMAS J. LUECK[/size]

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said yesterday that it had reached an agreement with JetBlue Airways to build a new terminal at Kennedy International Airport, a move meant to expand service and reopen Terminal 5, the airport's arching architectural landmark.

The Port Authority also said that it had struck a deal with the Federal Aviation Administration, the New York State Historical Preservation Office and the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation to restore and find another use for Terminal 5, the gull-winged edifice completed in 1962 for Trans World Airlines and known internationally as a monument to the early days of jet-powered commercial flight. The new terminal would be connected to Terminal 5 by two pedestrian tubes.

"Generations to come can marvel at this architectural masterpiece," Gov. George E. Pataki said of the plan to revitalize Terminal 5, which was designed by the architect Eero Saarinen, and has been closed since T.W.A. ended operations in 2001.

For JetBlue, a fast-growing domestic airline that made its first flights out of Kennedy in 2000, the deal represents a major financial commitment to New York City as its base. The Port Authority said the new terminal would be built on a 70-acre tract and cost $850 million, with construction expected to begin in 2005.

Details of the financing remained unclear yesterday. The Port Authority said it would share the $850 million construction bill with JetBlue.

The Port Authority said that JetBlue had agreed to operate the new terminal under a lease that would run up to 34 years, but that financial terms of the lease remained to be worked out.

JetBlue, which carries about seven million passengers a year through Kennedy, has quickly emerged as the airport's busiest carrier, even though it offers few international flights. It serves 25 cities across the United States and two in the Dominican Republic.

The airline has said it wants to triple its business out of Kennedy, and its new 640,000-square-foot terminal would provide 26 new passenger gates. The plan also calls for a connecting bridge to the AirTrain station, a parking garage with 1,500 spaces and the connecting tubes to Terminal 5, where JetBlue said it would provide two electronic ticket kiosks for customers who want to walk through the historic structure.

"We eagerly await the day when Terminal 5 will become JetBlue's home too," said JetBlue's chairman, David Neeleman. The agreement announced yesterday came after years of debate between aviation planners and preservationists over the fate of Terminal 5, which no airlines had expressed an interest in using for passenger service. Its architecture, considered breathtaking by some, is deemed out of date by the airline industry.

One earlier idea offered by the Port Authority was to build an enormous C-shaped terminal around the Saarinen building, which would be used by several airlines. That plan would have rehabilitated Terminal 5, and had envisioned connecting the building to the new terminal with pedestrian tubes similar to those in the deal announced yesterday.

But the earlier plan provoked determined opposition from the Municipal Art Society and preservationists, who said it would cut Terminal 5 off from taxiways and runways and overwhelm the aesthetics of its winged architecture.

Port Authority officials said yesterday that their agreement with JetBlue called for a far smaller building, which would be directly behind Terminal 5 and would not undermine its architectural appeal.

Port Authority Executive Director Joseph J. Seymour said that the agreement would preserve "a fundamental part of the airport's past, while we also employ good business sense to meet our future needs."

But exactly how Terminal 5 will be used, besides as a small diversion for JetBlue passengers walking to and from their new terminal, has not been determined. The Port Authority said it was in contact with more than 40 firms interested in restoring and redeveloping the building for a variety of uses.
 
Flying the Line

Thanks.

It shows the incorporation of Terminal 5, and the 3 new concourses. Going to 20M pax per year from JFK can only mean slots will probably be tripled from 70 something to over 200. This can't sit well with other domestic carriers at the airport, but hey B6 made the commitment when others weren't interested. Rewards should go to those who are pro-active.

It sounds like with the recent upgrade to Cat III on the 8400' runway, that this runway will probably get much of the Jetblue traffic. Don't know much about the runway layout, but maybe some B6 people could comment. Sounds like a perfect fit for the new equipment on the 190's.
 
lowecur said:
Thanks.

It shows the incorporation of Terminal 5, and the 3 new concourses. Going to 20M pax per year from JFK can only mean slots will probably be tripled from 70 something to over 200. This can't sit well with other domestic carriers at the airport, but hey B6 made the commitment when others weren't interested. Rewards should go to those who are pro-active.

It sounds like with the recent upgrade to Cat III on the 8400' runway, that this runway will probably get much of the Jetblue traffic. Don't know much about the runway layout, but maybe some B6 people could comment. Sounds like a perfect fit for the new equipment on the 190's.
JFK goes slot-free in either 2007 or 2008. Any carrier will be able to add flights whenever they want. As is now, slot restrictions only apply during the international peak time (late afternoon and early evening).
 
All slots at JFK go away in 2007, so the slot problem is moot. And the slots only affect flights that operate from 1500 to 2000 anyway, and even with 26 gates, you'd never be able to crank out 200+ flights in that period of time.

Runways assignments are the same as for all other airlines at JFK, no special favors.
 
Blue Dude said:
All slots at JFK go away in 2007, so the slot problem is moot. And the slots only affect flights that operate from 1500 to 2000 anyway, and even with 26 gates, you'd never be able to crank out 200+ flights in that period of time.

Runways assignments are the same as for all other airlines at JFK, no special favors.
I wasn't aware of that. Does that mean that they can't re-up the slots based upon an updated review prior to 2007?

The 26 gates and 200+flights are interesting during the 5 hr slot period. Certainly 1 per hour is doable, bringing the total to 130. My guess is the new terminal will be set up for quick turn-a-rounds. The 190 should be able to turn in 30 minutes, and the 320 in 45. In order to triple pax to 20M, they may get close to 200. The congestion factor will certainly come in to play.
 
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AAI tries to run at peak 10 flight per gate per day, we may not always but we can do it. If JBLU could or did do the turns at that rate you would be able to handle 200+ departures a day.
 

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