JetBlue Union Results

[Floatplane]

Now that you've all had a chance to vote in representation but failed to do so, don't be surprised when you are denied jumpseat privileges at a union carrier. Many pilots at NWA view the jumpseat as a union negotiated privilege. And they are correct. Good luck.

Don't you mean Delta! LOL

 

[PHXFLYR]

Well, from a "source" in Ozone Park and one in Yonkers, apparently a lot of ex USAir guys now at Jetblue are working with "local leaders" to set up shop next to "Vito's Repair shop" for a new "MEC Headquarters." Security at the establishment will be procured by "Vinnie the Rat" and "Antoine the Anus." (the latter being your new negotiator in any future contracts) Good luck guys!


Bye Bye--General Lee

Gee,I didn't know USAPA's BPR ( "bored of pilot representing" er,uh.. I mean Board of Pilot "'Representatives" ) were providing security for the Jet Blue Pilots Association. Wonder if that's gonna be listed as a "germane expense"???


PHXFLYR

 

[lowpitchstop]

Actually, getting JBPA on property would have been perfect in "this economy". I'd like to thank 1000 of my brothers for being so damn apathetic and not seeing the forest for the trees. Guess when you have tri-care our ********************ty health care and industry trailing pay just aren't important enough to try and lift up your company and industry.

I have tricare and am just as upset as you. I (like many of my guard/reserve buds) can see through the forest and "still" voted!

 

[aewanabe]

ygtbsm

Now that you've all had a chance to vote in representation but failed to do so, don't be surprised when you are denied jumpseat privileges at a union carrier. Many pilots at NWA view the jumpseat as a union negotiated privilege. And they are correct. Good luck.

Wow. I voted yes and campaigned for the JBPA, and am disgusted at the result.

This, however, is way out of line. I guess the 50 or so DL and AA pilots that use us from RDU alone are gonna start buying tickets? Will you let me on if I bring my JBPA "Vote Yes" button?

 

[linepilot]

Or, perhaps these 1000 see an opportunity to raise the existing bar at JetBlue such that when a union does get voted in down the road, we start negotiations from a higher level of compensation.

There is an up side to this, gents. We just have to take action to make sure our concerns are addressed. We have their attention--now is the time to take action.

And who are you going to get to run THAT union drive? The Bobs?

 

[PHXFLYR]

Now that you've all had a chance to vote in representation but failed to do so, don't be surprised when you are denied jumpseat privileges at a union carrier. Many pilots at NWA view the jumpseat as a union negotiated privilege. And they are correct. Good luck.

Gotta ask. My union got voted out from under me just because USAir had more pilots than my airline did. I refused to join the new "union" if you want to call it that, and I guess you can say I'm a non-union pilot. Does that mean I won't be able to jumpseat on your airline and others that are represented by a union ?


PHXFLYR

 

[fr8doggie]

Trunout?

How many votes for/against?

These things take time. In FedEx's case 20 years. We got our heads handed to us by the Tigers pilots in the merger. They had ALPA representation, we had the FAB (student council). They had a contract, we had the Flight Crew Handbook, our version of your employment contract with jblu. Management unilaterally revoked I-96 (seniority integration in event of a merger).

Too bad you didn't organize now. You will never find a more labor friendly govt than what we will have for the next two years.

Best of luck to ALL JetBlue pilots. You are welcome on my j/s anytime. Just be prepared for a friendly lecture on the benefits of collective bargaining!

 

[oldxfr8dog]

JBLU pilots are pathetic.

Now who are you gonna call when your Airbus slides off the snowy runway in BUF. At the very least you should have voted this in to protect your families and your career.

You guys are playin with fire thinkin "they" are going to take care of you when the prverbial goo hits the fan.

Bad economy....I'll give you that....but legally you are on a road all by yourselves. Good Luck....

HEY! Don't use such a broad brush! About 700 of voted FOR it!

 

[N2264J]

Now that you've all had a chance to vote in representation but failed to do so, don't be surprised when you are denied jumpseat privileges at a union carrier. Many pilots at NWA view the jumpseat as a union negotiated privilege. And they are correct. Good luck.

This is the kind of pitch that has proven to be such a successful ALPA recruiting tool over the years.

 

[a320drivr]

To My Fellow Union Pilots:

I am truly sorry for my career and yours that this did not pass. I have never been around a more cowardly and gutless pilot group. We deserve whatever mgmt. doesnt give us and if we are involved in a merger we deserve to get hosed.

 

[Corn Julio]

To My Fellow Union Pilots:

I am truly sorry for my career and yours that this did not pass. I have never been around a more cowardly and gutless pilot group. We deserve whatever mgmt. doesnt give us and if we are involved in a merger we deserve to get hosed.

I agree: I am embarrased to be a JetBlue pilot. I hope union carriers start denying us jumpseats.
I am surrounded by wimps and as$ kissers wearing my same uniform.

 

[aewanabe]

Corn Julio. Yes we are surrounded by ass-kissers. Do you not commute? A jumpseat war is not the answer, and throwing our brothers and sisters under the bus has a lot do with why this drive failed, IMHO. Even if they are severely mis-guided.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

Add me to the list. I have never imagined such a bunch of little girls in my entire life. I also hope real airlines start denying us jumpseats. We deserve it.

The first one of these pu$$ies that opens their pie-holes even ONCE in complaint is going to get a hearty STFU from me.

PS: I'll still let real airline pilots on my jumpseat, even if they don't let me on theirs.

 

[FBN0223]

Wow. I voted yes and campaigned for the JBPA, and am disgusted at the result.

This, however, is way out of line. I guess the 50 or so DL and AA pilots that use us from RDU alone are gonna start buying tickets? Will you let me on if I bring my JBPA "Vote Yes" button?

I'm just an FO. It's not my call on who rides in the jumpseat, in most cases. I will say that after years of negotiations, a few strikes, and other sacrifices that some guys hold the jumpseat sacred and a privilege reserved only for other unionized pilots.

Also I have had JB pilots along in the cockpit and thought they were all pretty cool. Best of luck and better luck next time with getting a union on board.

 

[aewanabe]

Thanks for the well-wishes. I've flown with more than a couple guys who would gripe about things, then follow that up with "it's not the right time for a union". I don't understand how otherwise intelligent people can be so short-sighted.

The next few guys who tell me about how they need to work more for more money, or how they were screwed by Crew Services, are getting the simple question: "did you vote?"

 

[nonstop]

That sucks. I feel sorry for those of you who were in the minority. Unfortunately you're going to be grouped with the prevailing majority and looked down upon.

On a positive note your paycheck will be 2% larger and you'll still benefit from any positive changes to the profession fought for by your dues paying counterparts.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Thanks for the well-wishes. I've flown with more than a couple guys who would gripe about things, then follow that up with "it's not the right time for a union". I don't understand how otherwise intelligent people can be so short-sighted.

The next few guys who tell me about how they need to work more for more money, or how they were screwed by Crew Services, are getting the simple question: "did you vote?"

I would say it's because 66% of the pilots wouldn't buy your BS argument that electing two guys working out of their garage was going to resolve any of those issues.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

I've been flying professionally for 27 years. JetBlue is the first uniform I've been ashamed to wear. You're a prime example of why.

 

[PaulFooley]

I would say it's because 66% of the pilots wouldn't buy your BS argument that electing two guys working out of their garage was going to resolve any of those issues.

What do you have against garages?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

I guess the only honorable thing is to quit then.