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FlyingCricket

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JetBlue likely to challenge ATA-AirTran deal
Dateline: Monday December 06, 2004

JetBlue Airways is interested in operating into Chicago Midway from its New York JFK base as well as acquiring slot exemptions at New York LaGuardia that ATA Airlines has agreed to sell to AirTran Airways, CEO David Neeleman said Friday.

Speaking in Washington at a meeting hosted by the Aviation Safety Alliance, Neeleman challenged the terms of the $87.6 million agreement between ATA and AirTran. "I'm still confused about the whole Chicago thing," he said. "The way we read the gate rules--and we've been over to Midway a couple of times and talked to [airport officials]--these aren't gates that can be sold. They are not the property of AirTran or ATA."


He also said that the slot exemptions granted ATA by the US Dept. of Transportation do not belong to the airline but need to be returned to DOT if ATA is not using them. "We are standing in line for [ATA's] LGA slots," he stated. At the same time, he stressed, "We don’t want to grow Chicago in a big way…We don't think that is a smart thing for us." In a wide-ranging discussion, Neeleman repeated earlier guidance that the carrier expects to show a net loss for the fourth quarter, which would represent its first quarterly loss since 2001. But he added that "JetBlue was built for the bad times…for very difficult times, times like 9/11, times like now…We have a strong balance sheet, we have access to capital, we have enough cash to see us through very difficult times and we have the best product in the industry." He joked, "Half of me wants the [price of oil] to go to $25 per barrel and half of me wants it to go to $60 a barrel."--Perry Flint
 
What a bunch of lies!!! Nice guy wanting oil to go to 60 dollars a barrel. What kind of American is he? He will be sad when JBLU loses money in the current quarter due to higher fuel costs.
 
Oh Jeeezz! Thanks for posting this....now we're all going to be subjected to Lowecur's "expert" analysis. I'm sure he'll find a way to spin this story into another glowing E-190 ad.
 
"We don’t want to grow Chicago in a big way…We don't think that is a smart thing for us." :D :D

Oh, you're such a kidder! I guess you mean you don't want all 14 gates, but you'd be happy with 4 or 5 for now. Also, a few gates for B6 would break any bi- opoly plans for AirTran, plus Southwest will be limited to a few gates as the Justice Department would have anti-trust concerns due to a possible monopoly.
 
SWA/FO said:
What a bunch of lies!!! Nice guy wanting oil to go to 60 dollars a barrel. What kind of American is he? He will be sad when JBLU loses money in the current quarter due to higher fuel costs.
He was born in Brazil.:D I'll be glad when they lose money too, and hope the price gets cut in half....then I'll buy.
 
UALjan15 said:
Oh Jeeezz! Thanks for posting this....now we're all going to be subjected to Lowecur's "expert" analysis. I'm sure he'll find a way to spin this story into another glowing E-190 ad.
No, there's only a need to talk about that on selected threads.......my own.:)
 
"What a bunch of lies!!! Nice guy wanting oil to go to 60 dollars a barrel. What kind of American is he? He will be sad when JBLU loses money in the current quarter due to higher fuel costs".

Jeez Dude, chill.

Yes, the current cost of fuel affects jetblue like mostly all the rest of the airlines. Hmm, so why don't the all American leadership at SWA take one for the team and divvy up the hedges amongts all of us? Why don't the all American leadership back off in Philly, giving U a chance?

Did it ever occur to you, that the leadership at SWA is quite enjoying the high cost of fuel, due to their foresight with hedges and partly that is fostering their growth in a rough market? I guess not.
 
Lowercur your so full of it today that you had to make 3 posts a in a row so you had someone to talk too. :) Just wait and see what happens in a week or so, then we will see how the chips fall.:cool:
 
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Hey, SWA doesn't like the fuel prices either. It still costs us money too. You know the 20% or so that we still have to purchase.

We were talking about oil prices, not PHL. They are not Americans at SWA they are Texans. Survival of the fittist, free market & no wright amendment amen fellow aviating LCC brother!!

I was thinking also from a pure American stand point, you know everybody b!tches about fuel prices. Nobody ever thinks about the other things they buy (cost). You know like a bottle of beer is 3.00 in the bar...etc..

Even if SWA backed off of PHL, the management at U would still screw it up and be paid millions for it.
 
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SWA/FO said:
Nobody ever thinks about the other things they buy (cost). You know like a bootle of beer is 3.00 in the bar...etc..
A "bootle" of beer. That must be another Texas thang. What is that? A boot-shaped mug with a handle? If it's a big as a boot, then $3 for a "bootle" sounds like a bargain to me. But if it's only a little bitty bootle, then yeah, it's a rip-off.
 
Dizel8 said:
Did it ever occur to you, that the leadership at SWA is quite enjoying the high cost of fuel, due to their foresight with hedges and partly that is fostering their growth in a rough market?
Of couse we are, but we're not public about it.
 
What are you talking about? Looks like "bottle of beer" to me. No boot here? Are you "on" something?
 
FLB717 said:
Lowercur your so full of it today that you had to make 3 posts a in a row so you had someone to talk too. :) Just wait and see what happens in a week or so, then we will see how the chips fall.:cool:
Why doesn't Joe just forget about these gates and go back home to MSP and open a hub there.

I think you may know something before that. Just keep an eye on the headlines from the City of Chicago. Their posturing will tell the story before the judge actually rules. If the judge is not going to listen to the City, you'll see more headlines to the affect where the City will not support any decision by the judge. If things are relatively quiet leading up to the 16th, then the City and the judge are in agreement. Next couple of weeks will be interesting.:)
 
lowecur said:
Their posturing will tell the story before the judge actually rules. If the judge is not going to listen to the City, you'll see more headlines to the affect where the City will not support any decision by the judge. If things are relatively quiet leading up to the 16th, then the City and the judge are in agreement.:)
I think you have been watching too many episodes of Judge Judy.
 
canyonblue said:
I think you have been watching too many episodes of Judge Judy.
My dream Dominatrix.:D
 
FlyingCricket said:
" He joked, "Half of me wants the [price of oil] to go to $25 per barrel and half of me wants it to go to $60 a barrel."--Perry Flint
Maybe you didn't see the "joked" part so I highlighted it for you.

And also in the title of the article it stated "Likely"

Was it a poor joke? Yea, maybe. I guess it depends of your sense of humor, or lack there of.

C yaaa
 
You guys think its funny that someone would joke about something so serious. I mean people are out of work over the price of oil and this guy is making jokes. Remember, Trent Lott was trying to make a joke and look what happened to him. This guy should resign.

On a another note...you guys find it funny that Air Tran hired their 1000 pilot and he happens to be from Chicago? Excellent PR move.

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/indu...p://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041206/nym210_1.html
 
SWA/FO said:
You guys think its funny that someone would joke about something so serious. I mean people are out of work over the price of oil and this guy is making jokes. Remember, Trent Lott was trying to make a joke and look what happened to him. This guy should resign.

On a another note...you guys find it funny that Air Tran hired their 1000 pilot and he happens to be from Chicago? Excellent PR move.

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/industry/news/latestnews/*http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041206/nym210_1.html
Hey relax FO! You're just uptight that you guys are going to have to put those new 737's in DFW.;)
 
lowecur said:
Why doesn't Joe just forget about these gates and go back home to MSP and open a hub there.
MSP = Many Stupid People
 

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