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Caught this article and not sure if others have seen it. A lot of speculation about the future of the E190 fleet at JetBlue - again, most of it is pure speculation from analysts who probably don't know much. I thought most of the operational or teething problems were in the past regarding the E190?

I understand that the growth rate will be reduced and some A320s will be pared from the fleet. Any thoughts about the latest speculation? Would Jet Blue remove the E190s from its fleet and maybe replace them with A319s, etc.?


Will Embraer Sing the Blues?
By Tim Beyers (TMF Mile High)
October 26, 2006
By now, you've probably seen that JetBlue (Nasdaq: JBLU) plans to cut back on expansion to boost earnings after a turbulent third-quarter report. You may not have noticed that the cutbacks could include ridding its fleet of Embraer (NYSE: ERJ) regional jets.
Actually, there's no telling exactly what will occur. JetBlue said it might take delivery of all 30 jets it has on order for next year, and sell or lease older models. Would any of them be Embraer jets? It's possible; JetBlue has taken delivery of 21 of the company's aircraft, mostly new E190 regional jets.
The newness of the E190 should prevent it from being a part of any planned cutback. History, too, favors the Embraer aircraft: JetBlue was the first American carrier to employ the E190 for low-cost regional transportation.
Still, anything is possible, including delays or cancellations in existing orders. Remember: JetBlue CEO David Neeleman in January told a crowd of analysts that the E190 was experiencing operational issues, and that the plane "certainly hasn't been up to what we thought we could do."
So is a paring-back of the JetBlue order book -- which includes an 80-plane backlog as of this writing -- likely? And, if so, how badly would that hurt earnings? I'm unconvinced the company will turn its back on Embraer. But if it did, the cutbacks probably wouldn't be huge (JetBlue has to grow, after all), leading to only a temporary blip in earnings.
Moreover, Embraer is becoming increasingly diversified, with a global client list and a thriving executive-jet business. China's HNA Group has 100 planes on order, while U.S. Airways (NYSE: LCC) has 57 in the queue. Both rival JetBlue in their commitments to the Brazilian jet maker. Meanwhile, mainliner UAL (Nasdaq: UAUA), parent of United Airlines, has successfully rolled out upscale regional service using Embraer aircraft.
Perhaps that's why investors bid up the firm's shares by another 3% on Wednesday. Or maybe it's that, as bad as it would be to see Embraer lose orders from JetBlue, the jet maker's backlog has grown from $10.2 billion in June to $13.3 billion today. Little, if any, of that gain in orders is attributable to JetBlue.
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If jetblue was smart, they'd ditch the A320s and go to all ERJs. The ERJ is like a small A320 anyway and it comes with a low regional style pay rate.
 
This just in: Fedex and UPS are gonna stop flying boxes.
 
LOL....Funny, What Acefaser said...slowing of the aircraft, not getting rid of them.
 
I think it would have been smarter to stick with one fleet type. History has shown that you'll have a better chance at success.

An all E190/195 might be a good mix, but you would take any transcons out of play.
 
Brainhurts....could not agree with you more. I have the fever....and there's only one cure!!!
 
Airbus mix seems to work well for Spirit and Frontier. Plus, the A319s would allow JetBlue to actually complete transcon legs more often than not in strong winds.

If Neelman could do it over again, something tells me he would have gone with the A318/9 instead of the E190. Of course, the A318s would probably have regional wages...
 
Airbus mix seems to work well for Spirit and Frontier. Plus, the A319s would allow JetBlue to actually complete transcon legs more often than not in strong winds.

If Neelman could do it over again, something tells me he would have gone with the A318/9 instead of the E190. Of course, the A318s would probably have regional wages...

Well he could have but he said the 318 wasn't a "true 100 seater" whatever that means.
 
The guy is a moron....it says the company has taken delivery of 21 of Embraer's aircraft....mostly E190's....?????

The guy has no idea what he is talking about......

Last we heard, we will take 20 aircraft next year....the mix is to be decided.

The main problem with the 190 last winter was twofold....no CAT II and no crew applied MEL. Both these problems will be gone this winter. Further, the E190 deliveries, if slowed, might give Embraer a chance to catch up on deliveries as they are almost always a few weeks behind schedule.

A350
 
Was 80 for 80 an old Eagle slogan from the 90's?


I think that it's Allegiant's slogan for the 21st Century. Eagle might have thought it up, but it took a special breed to actually make it happen.
 
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