Jetblue rolls in to CMH - merged

[lowecur]

It's official, service to begin in Oct to both JFK and BOS, using the 190.

http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=102060

STL has been put on the back burner according to the buzz. My guess is AMR or SWA probably made a call with some sort of veiled threat that a Jetblue hub could reduce their service to the airport, along with the fact that they want the same incentives being offered to Jetblue. My guess is STL is now mulling their alternatives.

Keep an eye on Gary/Chicago.

imp:

 

[JB Bus Drvr]

It's official, service to begin in Oct to both JFK and BOS, using the 190.

http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=102060

STL has been put on the back burner according to the buzz. My guess is AMR or SWA probably made a call with some sort of veiled threat that a Jetblue hub could reduce their service to the airport, along with the fact that they want the same incentives being offered to Jetblue. My guess is STL is now mulling their alternatives.

Keep an eye on Gary/Chicago.

imp:

While your insights are curious at times, this is not the case. STL is still alive and viable, from the people who in the know here, without disclosing any strategies. Think about this for a second, with the airline market being so competitive, why would a carrier threaten to reduce service, ie. reduce seats they MAKE money on, because a new guy comes to town. That's like Allstate insurance saying that if Geico is going to start coverage in an area they're making money, they're going to stop renewing policies. It makes no business sense, like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Stupid. But keep up the writing, it makes interesting read with a few laughs

 

[lowecur]

While your insights are curious at times, this is not the case. STL is still alive and viable, from the people who in the know here, without disclosing any strategies. Think about this for a second, with the airline market being so competitive, why would a carrier threaten to reduce service, ie. reduce seats they MAKE money on, because a new guy comes to town. That's like Allstate insurance saying that if Geico is going to start coverage in an area they're making money, they're going to stop renewing policies. It makes no business sense, like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Stupid. But keep up the writing, it makes interesting read with a few laughs

Thanks for your thoughts, but if you don't think AMR/SWA wouldn't p/u the phone to call STL about how a B6 hub could affect their service at the airport, you are naive my friend. The person who broke the news on airliners.net obviously has good inside information, and his source said STL and CMH were next in line for announcements. Something happened on the STL deal that obviously requires further discussion. My response was based on my own speculation and nothing else. Now if you have inside information on the real deal and I'm wrong, then God bless you, but don't tell me conversations don't take place between airport officials and carriers that infer veiled threats from expansion within the airport. Your argument only makes sense if it's a non-hub/non-focus city expansion.

imp:

Incidently, Herb and Gerard are offering Jetblue one gate apiece over at DAL to get them to hush on the WA compromise. I'm sure Jetblue will take the deal.

 

[hatetoadmitit]

imp:

Incidently, Herb and Gerard are offering Jetblue one gate apiece over at DAL to get them to hush on the WA compromise. I'm sure Jetblue will take the deal.

I'm a dallas commuter for B6 and was interested in this comment. If this is true it should be great news for some of the commuters in this area. How reliable is the source that you received this information?

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Thanks for your thoughts, but if you don't think AMR/SWA wouldn't p/u the phone to call STL about how a B6 hub could affect their service at the airport, you are naive my friend. The person who broke the news on airliners.net obviously has good inside information, and his source said STL and CMH were next in line for announcements. Something happened on the STL deal that obviously requires further discussion. My response was based on my own speculation and nothing else. Now if you have inside information on the real deal and I'm wrong, then God bless you, but don't tell me conversations don't take place between airport officials and carriers that infer veiled threats from expansion within the airport. Your argument only makes sense if it's a non-hub/non-focus city expansion.

imp:

Incidently, Herb and Gerard are offering Jetblue one gate apiece over at DAL to get them to hush on the WA compromise. I'm sure Jetblue will take the deal.

Any clue on who will win the world series? Can you tell us if the Church of Scientology is really just a way for Hollywood actors to hide their homosexuality? Will "New Coke" ever come back?

Are the Spicegirls gonna reunite?

 

[lowecur]

Any clue on who will win the world series? Syracuse Can you tell us if the Church of Scientology is really just a way for Hollywood actors to hide their homosexuality?Yes Will "New Coke" ever come back?Yes

Are the Spicegirls gonna reunite?Only if you get that operation

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[lowecur]

I'm a dallas commuter for B6 and was interested in this comment. If this is true it should be great news for some of the commuters in this area. How reliable is the source that you received this information?

See for yourself, but the WA limits would apply:

imp:

Posted on Thu, Jul. 13, 2006

Wright deal on the move
Compromise gains several lawmakers' support

By MARIA RECIO and DAVID WETHE
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITERS

WASHINGTON _ The Wright Amendment compromise, despite some last-minute glitches, gained support from several congressmen at a hearing Wednesday as House and Senate bills were being prepared for introduction.
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, will introduce a bill today incorporating four elements of the Wright Amendment compromise that must be put into law -- setting it on a fast track for Senate committee consideration next week. House supporters are preparing to introduce identical legislation this week or next and anticipate a House panel vote before the congressional August recess.

In testimony before the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee's aviation subcommittee, key members of the North Texas delegation argued that Congress should pass the local deal, which calls for repealing federal restrictions on flights at Dallas Love Field after eight years, allowing immediate long-haul connecting and one-stop ticketing from Love, slashing the airport's size, and barring nonstop international flights.

Critics of the Wright Amendment, a '70s-era law designed to protect the then-new Dallas/Fort Worth Airport from competition, have long argued that it hampers competition and keeps airfares high in North Texas. The local agreement, reached by Fort Worth, Dallas, D/FW, and American and Southwest airlines, picked up support from a powerful Wright Amendment proponent: Joe Barton, R-Arlington.

In a surprise, Jeb Hensarling, the Dallas GOP congressman who has been campaigning for repeal, testified that he would support the provisions calling for immediate through-ticketing and repeal after eight years. But he also said he wouldn't vote for the bill if it capped Love Field's gates at 20, down from today's 32.

JetBlue Airways argued in written testimony that it wants to enter Love but that there's little room. Arpey and Southwest Chairman Herb Kelleher both volunteered to surrender a gate at Love to JetBlue, and D/FW's chief operating officer, Kevin Cox, said JetBlue could come to his airport and take up empty gates and an offer of a half-year's free landing fees.

"Nobody has guaranteed access to an airport ... but an airline does have guaranteed access to the marketplace," Cox said. Kelleher scoffed at JetBlue's arguments, saying he had never heard JetBlue voice a desire to repeal Wright. "That's why their support never came up on my radar, and I called Norad to check and see as well," Kelleher joked, referring to the aerospace defense group.


Staff writer Trebor Banstetter contributed to this report.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

While your insights are curious at times, this is not the case. STL is still alive and viable, from the people who in the know here, without disclosing any strategies. Think about this for a second, with the airline market being so competitive, why would a carrier threaten to reduce service, ie. reduce seats they MAKE money on, because a new guy comes to town. That's like Allstate insurance saying that if Geico is going to start coverage in an area they're making money, they're going to stop renewing policies. It makes no business sense, like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Stupid. But keep up the writing, it makes interesting read with a few laughs

Since when has airline management been known to make smart decisions for the company they are running. Smart for thier own bank account, maybe but we are talking smart for the long term health of thier company....

 

[Lake Alice]

Off to CMH

Newest B6 city is CMH.

Starts in October and will be served from JFK and BOS.

I imagine it will start as a 190 trip but who knows.

 

[Longhorn]

Yep,
4 flights a day on the 190 from JFK and 1 a day from BOS. Should be a great market.

 

[sayagain?]

The probability of WN sitting around and doing nothing is almost zero. Look at what they did in MDW concerning ATA, AWA and Airtran. The have the strength and more importantly, the $, to put up a good fight.

 

[Lake Alice]

Any clue on who will win the world series? Can you tell us if the Church of Scientology is really just a way for Hollywood actors to hide their homosexuality? Will "New Coke" ever come back?

Are the Spicegirls gonna reunite?

Scientology!!!!!

Today I begin world domintation with the Hausenfefer religion. We differ slightly from Scientology since we were created in a basement rather than a garage. Please send donations and celebs are expected to join. All others who are incapable of thinking for themselves please join as well.

As for the rest I don't know yet. My palm reader just dropped her crystal ball.