JetBlue pilot found not guilty by Reason of Insanity byTexas judge

[Ty Webb]

.... when I entered training at legacy Continental three months ago..
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Congrats, Andy! Glad to hear it. :beer:

 

[Andy]

Congrats, Andy! Glad to hear it. :beer:

Thanks Ty; I really appreciate that.

It's good to be back flying again. I didn't miss it while I was gone but I'm definitely enjoying being back flying. And I've been impressed with the legacy Continental operation. In spite of morale being low due to everything being Jeff'd up, almost everyone I've had contact with on the L-CAL side have been great. (There's always the one exception).

 

[Lear70]

Ditto, that's excellent, glad to hear you're back in the air again! :beer:

 

[Andy]

Ditto, that's excellent, glad to hear you're back in the air again! :beer:

Thanks Lear; I really appreciate that.


This industry is not for anyone who can't deal with their cheese getting moved - you never know how your career is going to go until it's over and you have a chance to reflect on it.

I'm sure that Clayton Osbon didn't plan on having his career end this way. I just hope that he's able to get the help he needs so that he can return to being a productive member of society, although I seriously doubt that it will involve aviation.

 

[Mamma]

"Jeff'd up." Love it.

 

[airplane wizard]

Avweb says he is still employed with JetBlue.

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/2253-full.html#206919

Maybe they will give him a management position.

 

[Whine Lover]

That would be poetic injustice and absolutely probable for the State of The Industry.

I wish he and his Family the Best.

YKW

 

[Lake Alice]

I sincerely hope that he had loss of license insurance. Loss of license insurance was the FIRST thing I filled out when I entered training at legacy Continental three months ago.

But for the grace of God go I.

I encourage everyone on this board to evaluate whether or not they have sufficient loss of license insurance. It's expensive for a fossil like me (51) but if anything happens, I'll have an income stream until I reach 65.

Jetblues insurance will drop him after 2 years. Mental issues are not covered.

 

[IAHERJ]

Jetblues insurance will drop him after 2 years. Mental issues are not covered.

That's LTD. Most airlines plans have the same 2 year limit for substance abuse/mental issues. Loss of license insurance varies and I believe many plans will cover the pilot for a mental issue.

 

[ATRCA]

Thanks Lear; I really appreciate that.


This industry is not for anyone who can't deal with their cheese getting moved - you never know how your career is going to go until it's over and you have a chance to reflect on it.

I'm sure that Clayton Osbon didn't plan on having his career end this way. I just hope that he's able to get the help he needs so that he can return to being a productive member of society, although I seriously doubt that it will involve aviation.

Andy, welcome back! You on the 756 or 73?

 

[Turtle21]

Hahahaha. Silly Blujet pilots know they don't need a union.....

....yeah, evidently you shouldn't pay dues after all, folks that have paid dues have been convicted, just sayin' :lol:

 

[Andy]

Andy, welcome back! You on the 756 or 73?

Thanks! 73. L-UAL furloughees go to the 73; a few have gotten 756 slots in the spring vacancy bids. Since I'm in Tucson, I'll likely bid for the 73 out of LAX; much easier commute.

 

[B6Busdriver]

....yeah, evidently you shouldn't pay dues after all, folks that have paid dues have been convicted, just sayin' :lol:

Yeah we shall see. Soon JetBlue will cut bait and with the fabulous benefits at B6 he'll get 2 years of LTD. Then he will have nothing, nada, zilch, zero. I wonder what disability pays for mental illness at airlines with a CBA. Hmmmm.

 

[airplane wizard]

Lack of sleep caused it???

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Tired...n-osbons-march/story?id=16751079#.T_zPQnDTJDI

 

[Lear70]

It can be a contributing factor.

Had a talk with my Psychiatrist fiance' about this, and she said that some people, if you combine a large amount of stress with sleep deprivation (due in large part to the stress in some cases), coupled with another external stressor, maybe alcohol from the night before and/or even talking about the stress with someone (the other pilot), can experience a brief psychotic break when they've otherwise been completely normal.

She also said that once experienced, they are often more likely to have another event than they were before, which is why any history of mental illness is pretty much a permanent grounding.

Sleep deprivation and stress do crazy things to brain chemistry, there's no denying that medical science, both in and out of aviation.

 

[SWA Bubba]

It can be a contributing factor.

Had a talk with my Psychiatrist fiance' about this,....

Wait... In this case, did you mean the person your psychiatrist is going to marry, or your finace, who just happens to be a psychiatrist? Cause from a FAA medical examiner standpoint, there's a BIG difference!

Bubba

 

[Lear70]

*chuckle*...

We're pilots... aren't we all a little crazy? (kidding, by the way).

Yes, my fiance' who happens to be a practicing psychiatrist.

 

[Bringupthebird]

So will pilots have to carry "malpractice" insurance to defend themselves against lawsuits filed against them personally? If a judge can throw you in jail for interfering with - yourself - then what's to stop them from throwing you in jail on charges of gross negligence and vehicular manslaughter if (God forbid) you actually survive a fatal crash?

The Lawyers are licking their chops over the possibility of cashing in on a multi-million dollar suit against both the airline AND the pilot.

But, don't worry about this. Just go back to arguing about scope and seniority and who's screwing whom.

 

[vetrider]

Yeah we shall see. Soon JetBlue will cut bait and with the fabulous benefits at B6 he'll get 2 years of LTD. Then he will have nothing, nada, zilch, zero. I wonder what disability pays for mental illness at airlines with a CBA. Hmmmm.

Well at AWA, Alpo represented, what you describe is just what we got. Our guy in question was cut off at 2 years, if memory serves.

 

[Bringupthebird]

ALPA HIMS wasn't really set up for the mental illness scenario.