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JetBlue orders larger Airbuses & defers E190s - article

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johnsonrod

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Interesting article - not a great vote of confidence in the E190... Of course that mirrors what we hear on these boards about the E190 and its maintenance/performance problems. Good news for overall growth at JB.

One question: with all of the incoming A321s, will JB pilots be paid a higher rate on the A321 vs. the A320?

See article below:



JetBlue Airways is to order another 35 Airbus jets but defer delivery of 24 Embraer 190s under a fleet restructuring plan which shifts the balance of the fleet towards larger aircraft types.

The restructuring will also involve converting 18 of its A320 and A320neo orders to larger A321 and A321neo twinjets.

"We believe these fleet changes will provide increased ability to match capacity and demand throughout our network and reduce costs, leading to improved shareholder returns over the long term," says JetBlue chief Dave Barger.

JetBlue has 30 A321s and 11 A320s on order. It is converting eight of the A320s to A321s, and placing orders for 15 more A321s, bringing its total to 53 of the larger type.

It is also amending its order for 40 A320neos, converting 10 of them to A321neos and ordering another 20 A321neos on top.

JetBlue has 25 Embraer 190s on order but 24 of them, scheduled for delivery from 2014, will be deferred to 2020-22. The airline says this will "optimise" its fleet of the type to about 60 in the near term.

"While the [Embraer 190] is critical to our continued success in Boston and San Juan, we are now at the point where our network growth calls for larger gauge aircraft," adds Barger.

Deliveries of the additional A321neo aircraft will begin in 2018. The 15 additional A321s will be introduced by 2017.

"With significant savings from increased fuel efficiency and better utilisation of our airport slot portfolio in key markets, we believe these A321 aircraft will improve our company's profitability," says Barger.

JetBlue chief financial officer Mark Powers says the change will reduce capital commitments over the next three years, a move "consistent with our free cash flow and return on invested capital goals".


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...larger-airbuses-as-it-defers-embraers-392275/
 
Better look at the actual fleet plan not nearly the net aircraft that this article might lead you to believe.

Why not buy the 321? You have pilots flying 40 more seats for free. As mentioned on BP for every two 321's they buy they get a 190's worth of capacity for free
 
Better look at the actual fleet plan not nearly the net aircraft that this article might lead you to believe.

Why not buy the 321? You have pilots flying 40 more seats for free. As mentioned on BP for every two 321's they buy they get a 190's worth of capacity for free

Where is the "actual" fleet plan you speak of? Can you provide a link?
 
What they tell you.......

"JetBlue Airways announces a record third quarter net income of $71 million......"

What they don't tell you.......

"......on the backs of their employees."


Send in a card. Tell your friends to send in a card.

"In business, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate."
 
320 and 321 will pay the same, for now. If you are a JB pilot send in a card, as this is the only way this will change. As for new hires. The 190 will be a zero growth airplane starting in 2014. This being said. Every current 190 driver knows this and everyone other than the top 20-30% of the 190 seniority list will be transitioning to the bus. Especially with rumors that JB plans to decouple the 190 rates from 10% of the BUS rate. Jetblue going into the future I believe will be most new hires going to the 190 while the bus training is made up mostly of guys transferring to the BUS. I currently bid inside 30% on the 190 and will bid the BUS September, 2014. Good luck to all.
 
I find it odd than any airline would order a 320 over a 321. Minor increase in fuel burn vs 20+ more seats.
 
Yes girls, I have those. They are not different from the original post. More airbuses, deferred 190s forever. What is inaccurate about the post above?
 

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