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jetBlue mins w/ 190?

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sleeve

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Has any one currently at jetBlue heard of a possible change in the mins for hiring into the 190? I know they are swamped with resumes and most likely would have no problem filling classes but wonder how many Captains at other places would be willing to give up between 50-90K (depending on which regional you work for) to go to FO in the 190 for they're posted newhire pay (subject to change for the better from what I've heard)..

I've got the age old problem of enough 121SIC time to kill myself, but no elusive turbine PIC time. And JB is the only place I've wanted to work since they started flying to my city in early 2001.Thanks.
 
I have heard no indications of lowering the minimums. They are not hiring just into the E190. They are hiring into the Airbus and E190 simultaneously, the crewmember chooses which aircraft platform they wish to fly. Class date availablity might not be the same for each a/c, so seniority might play into choosing one a/c over the other. There will be no aircraft assignments as it stands now.

Chaz
 
I don't think Jetblue would lower they're mins, heck the 190 is bigger than a 737-200, almost as big as a -300. My question is, how do they choose canidates for interviews. I know of one such person with just barely 1000 PIC turbine and less than 4000TT that has an interview next week. He didn't know anybody, just updated his stuff. Kinda gives me some hope with my whopping 300 PIC turb.

Cheers
 
Plug said:
I don't think Jetblue would lower they're mins, heck the 190 is bigger than a 737-200, almost as big as a -300.

How do you figure that?

The 737-200 holds ~20 more people, and maxes at 5000-10000 pounds more than the Embraer, depending on which model of E190. The 190 is 10 feet longer, but that hardy makes it "bigger" overall, since that's to compensate for only 2x2 seating. The Boeing is both taller and has a much wider fuselage than the Embraer.
 
Everyone I know that got an interview next week has ERJ experience.

I don't think that anyone hiring pilots at JetBlue cares if you flew the ERJ or the CRJ.
 
stillflyn said:
Everyone I know that got an interview next week has ERJ experience.

I don't think that anyone hiring pilots at JetBlue cares if you flew the ERJ or the CRJ.

Did it occur to you that the ERJ he was speaking of might be an ERJ170 and not a 145?

GP
 
Yes folks.
Isn't it interesting how we like to call the 190 a full size jet when we speak to shareholders and customers
and
how we like to call it an RJ when we speak to our pilots about pay.
hmmmmm?
 
Did it occur to you that the ERJ he was speaking of might be an ERJ170 and not a 145?

GP

It did "occur" and I don't think that they care about that eather.

Stillflyn
 
Plug said:
I don't think Jetblue would lower they're mins, heck the 190 is bigger than a 737-200, almost as big as a -300.

It's not the size of the airplane that most candidates care about, it's the size of the paycheck, and the rates for the E190 aren't very impressive.
 
Ty Webb said:
It's not the size of the airplane that most candidates care about, it's the size of the paycheck, and the rates for the E190 aren't very impressive.

Figured that was coming soon.
 
stillflyn said:
Did it occur to you that the ERJ he was speaking of might be an ERJ170 and not a 145?

GP

It did "occur" and I don't think that they care about that eather.

Stillflyn

Sorry dude...I hope I didn't upset you by using the word "occur". I certainly didn't mean to belittle your contribution to the discussion. I suppose I could have worded that last post differently.

I do think that we are looking for folks with ERJ170 experience to fill upcoming classes. I've noticed quite a few from Mid-Atlantic, Republic and Chautauqua in recent interview groups moving on to Phase 2. However, these folks are certainly not the majority of Phase 2 candidates.

Is "eather" some kind of subliminal message? Hmm...I think I'll go have some pie!

Cheers!

GP
 
I'm just saw that you do not need >20K experience anymore...i always thought that was one of their strict limits.
 
GuppyPuppy said:
Hmm...I think I'll go have some pie!

Cheers!

GP

This is some of the best advice I have read on this forum, period!!

In fact, it is just about the only sound advice you will find here.

Pie for everyone!!!:)
 
New jB mins

starchkr said:
I'm just saw that you do not need >20K experience anymore...i always thought that was one of their strict limits.


II. Minimum Qualifications:

• 1500 hours total time in airplanes (excluded: Helicopter, Simulator, Flight Engineer time)
• 1000 hours turbine in airplanes
• 1000 hours Pilot in Command Time*
• 1000 hours in airplanes at or above 20,000 pounds (maximum takeoff weight) or 1000 hours in large turbojet airplanes (12,500 lbs or above)

• Recency of flight experience will be considered
• Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certification
• Current FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate
• Federal Communication Commission (FCC) Radio License
• Valid Passport with the ability to travel in and out of the United States
• Three reference letters from Pilots who can personally attest to the candidate’s flying skills (must bring originals to interview)
• Vision corrected to 20/20
• High School Diploma or General Education Development (GED) Diploma required , College Degree preferred but not required
• Regular attendance is required
• Must be an appropriate organizational fit for the JetBlue culture, that is, exhibit the JetBlue values of Safety, Caring, Integrity, Fun and Passion
• Must be well groomed and maintain a professional appearance
• Must pass a ten (10) year background check and pre-employment drug test
• Must be legally eligible to work in the country in which the position is located
• When working or traveling on JetBlue flights, and if time permits, all capable Crewmembers are asked to assist with light cleaning of the aircraft


*JetBlue will only consider PIC time when the Pilot has signed for the aircraft. Please use only this time when completing the areas of the application asking for PIC time to be entered.
Candidates who have previously interviewed will be ineligible for another opportunity to do so for a period of six (6) months from the date of their last interview

Competitive Qualifications
Our computers surface the most competitive applicants in the database. These files are then reviewed by a team of line Pilots. Due to the high volume of applications we receive, competitive qualifications can be significantly higher than the minimum requirements. On average, we are currently seeing the following background in candidates selected to interview:
• Between 3,000 and 10,000 hours total time in airplanes
• Greater than 2,000 hours turbine PIC in jets
• Greater than 2,000 hours in airplanes at or above 20,000 pounds (maximum takeoff weight)
• Experience with more sophisticated aircraft utilizing Electronic Flight Instrument Systems (EFIS), Flight Management Systems (FMS)
• Bachelor’s Degree


V. Salary/Benefits:

The current pay system for First Officers is as follows:
• $50.96/hour with a minimum guarantee of 70 hours/month (75 on reserve)
• $76.44/hour for all hours flown in excess of 70 hours in a month
• Estimated annual pay based on 81 hours (projected average) per month would be $52,896.48 (plus per diem of $2.00/hour)
• Training pay is based on $2500/month (lodging is provided at Company cost during initial training)
• JetBlue Pilots and their designated dependents receive a comprehensive benefit and insurance package including major medical, dental, vision, life insurance and much more
• Space-available pass benefits for JetBlue Crewmembers and their families on our flights are unlimited


If the E190 payscale remains the same, it wouldn't be surprising to see the mins drop.

HMM
 
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I used to sign for the 172 when I was in flight school. Does that PIC count? It doens't say PIC Turbine. I know to be competative you need to have PIC turbine, but could I submit my stuff and update it regularly if I do not yet have 1000 PIC Turbine?
 
Truckdriver said:
I used to sign for the 172 when I was in flight school. Does that PIC count? It doens't say PIC Turbine. I know to be competative you need to have PIC turbine, but could I submit my stuff and update it regularly if I do not yet have 1000 PIC Turbine?

Is English not your first language or something?
 
"If the E190 payscale remains the same, it wouldn't be surprising to see the mins drop."

That's kinda what I was getting to, not to bash the JB pay scales or anything. We have guys at Comair who are leary of going to another carrier(JB or SW) because they would take a paycut on the airbus/73..(obviously that would change once upgraded) So going to the 190 seems like it would be a greater deterrent for those guys..

Maybe they would drop the mins to say 2000hrs 121 experience or jet experience..something to that effect? There are alot of FO's at the regionals who have a good amount of experience just nothing in the way of PIC time to show for it.
 
furlough-boy said:
Is English not your first language or something?

Yep, sure is. I'm sure you can understand English, but I don't know about the reading part because the mins say 1000 hours Pilot in Command Time. It then says at the bottom that only includes time in which you signed for the airplane. It says nothing about what type of airplane it must be in. It appears to me that it could be in any type of airplane as long as you signed the release. If I have 1500 hours of PIC time in Navajo flying cargo I should meet that minimum. It does not say anywhere that you must have 1000 PIC TURBINE time. I know to be competative you must have it, but to actually apply so you can update your stuff, it doesn't appear that it is necessary.
 

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