JetBlue in cahoots with petrol$$ ME carriers

[tailhookah]

You don't want a solution. You just want to continue this thread. I've said all I need.

 

[BeachBummer]

Go book IAD-Addis Ababa on United's website as well as the GSA website.

https://cpsearch.fas.gsa.gov

United's page places you on an Ethiopian Airline flight, non stop. The GSA site says you'll be on a "United" flight. Or not.

I stole this from apc...

If our govt. had an ounce of credibility... This should have been stopped years ago. Tailhooka, your argument is valid, but your angry at the wrong people. This is just a different version of obamas redistribution of whatever...

No doubt jetblue will benefit from this domestically, but it will decrease chances of international expansion. Is it right? No I don't think so, but contracts come and go and United lost this round and jetblue won.... Sort of...

God the govt is skrewed up.

 

[Blue Dude]

God the govt is skrewed up.

This.

 

[maru657]

Good for the boys at Jet Blue. I would totally ignore the condemnation from some bozo at Delta or Southwest. If the past 30 years have taught us anything each of these pilot groups will be perfectly willing to rationalize any behavior that benefits them. That means bastardizing ALPA's original bylaws or stepping on seniority rights of other pilot groups. This deal could be very good for Jet Blue.

 

[tailhookah]

From the weekly Alpa national update:

Emirates Awarded City Pair Under Fly America Act
The General Services Administration (GSA), responsible for awarding government contracts on city-pairs under the Fly America Act, has designated Emirates, code-sharing with JetBlue, as the sole carrier of traffic between Washington, DC and Dubai, UAE. As a result of this awarded, United, which previously served 15,000 passengers a year under this contract, is pulling out the market entirely ? leaving zero U.S. carriers flying between the U.S. and the UAE.

The Fly America Act requires passengers whose travel is being paid for by the federal government to travel on U.S. airlines. The GSA has interpreted the Act to allow airlines to service these routes via their codeshare partners. In the case of the IAD-DXB route, JetBlue Airlines has placed their code on Emirates? daily flight, essentially functioning as Emirates? ticket agent for the route. The contract for the route was awarded on non-stop basis; as JetBlue does not currently own any aircraft capable of servicing the more than 7,000 mile distance between IAD and DXB, no JetBlue planes or JetBlue pilots will be used to fulfill this contract ? only Emirates.

While this decision demonstrates the need for clarification of the Fly America Act, it also underscores ALPA?s position that subsidized competition from the Middle East is unfairly eroding our international market share. Emirates bid $699 each way between IAD and DXB, whereas United had previously charged the U.S. government $979. Emirates is only able to offer such a price point because it loses money on this route and need not show a profit anywhere. ALPA is working diligently to convince the U.S. government to open consultations with the UAE and Qatar to end this unfair competition, level the playing field in international aviation, and protect the U.S. airline industry.

Disgusting

 

[Flopgut]

ALPA could have once been able to weigh in on this sort of thing and maybe changed the outcome. Fact of the matter is the sum total of ALPA political capital was cashed in to get retirement age increased.

 

[Blue Dude]

The GSA has interpreted the Act to allow airlines to service these routes via their codeshare partners.

Agreed, the government's "interpretation" is disgusting. Makes no sense at all. Now what do you want JetBlue's pilots to do about it? We're not gaining or losing anything by it, not even carrying connecting passengers. If anyone ought to be taking to the streets, it should be United's pilots.

BTW, we're in contract talks, and you can bet this scenario will be a factor in section 1. However, we don't have a CBA, not even one that's amendable, so it's not like we have a lot of options at the moment.

 

[Flopgut]

This has almost nothing to do with JetBlue pilots.

 

[airbaker]

deleted...not worth the internet battle

 

[BeachBummer]

No, sheeeet... Did not know that. These friggin guys who had other airline recalls in their back pockets, or left for legacy jobs after rallying against our unionization are pathetic hypocrites. me me me me, I got mine, don't mess with MY good thing.... puke.

all validity for argument from tail hook gone...

You and Barny make a great pair.

 

[Freebrd]

Fact of the matter is the sum total of ALPA political capital was cashed in to get retirement age increased.

Gheesh, still fighting this battle in your head. How long ago was this, 7-8 years ago? Move on man! I think spends most of the dues moola on their salaries, and, ready for it? PENSIONS! Look at where Worthless, Babababbitt are now.

 

[EngineThunder]

Nevermind