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Those RJ boys were flying their E135s when your E190s were down, for no reason! I still can't understand why they parked the whole E190 fleet and pizzed off about 9 cities---with only E190 service (BNA, PIT, HOU, AUS, CHM, CLT, PWM, RIC, BDA) and many others will partial E190 serivice (ORD, BOS, JFK, NAS, TPA, MCO, IAD, BUF). That was a crazy move. There had to be some reserves waiting to fly that could have flown a couple flights a day into those cities to take some people out....


Bye Bye--General Lee

General,

I think that sometimes you post just to keep your post number going up. Sometimes you slam the RJ guys, other times you defend them. Are you seriously sitting at your computer pondering continually why the 190's were parked...or does the subject give you just enough glee that you cannot contain yourself and you must keep posting about it. It seems to me that some of your posts are just randomly injected into threads so that you can draw attention to yourself and the decision to park some airplanes. With the amount of revenue lost over the weekend, would it not be pertinent to assume that if the airline could have flown a full schedule then the airline would have? While you ponder over that, I eagerly await your response.
 
General,

I think that sometimes you post just to keep your post number going up. Sometimes you slam the RJ guys, other times you defend them. Are you seriously sitting at your computer pondering continually why the 190's were parked...or does the subject give you just enough glee that you cannot contain yourself and you must keep posting about it. It seems to me that some of your posts are just randomly injected into threads so that you can draw attention to yourself and the decision to park some airplanes. With the amount of revenue lost over the weekend, would it not be pertinent to assume that if the airline could have flown a full schedule then the airline would have? While you ponder over that, I eagerly await your response.

We all have our bad days. You guys had a really bad week. I wanted to know if any of you figured out why you parked a whole fleet, and in the process pizzed off 9 cities that only E190s fly to? If you don't have the answer, then say that. We all make operational mistakes, but I can't understand why your management did that. If you can shed some light, then do it. And I do slam some RJ pilots who think their poop doesn't stink, but others are doing a good job and want out. Some are lifers and want to stay in, which is understandable too, unless they are RJDC pukes who want larger planes without having to start over like the rest of us..... So, answer me the question why you think your management parked a fleet for a weekend? And no, I am not doing this to increase my post number. Good one.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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its a fair question

We all have our bad days. You guys had a really bad week. I wanted to know if any of you figured out why you parked a whole fleet, and in the process pizzed off 9 cities that only E190s fly to? If you don't have the answer, then say that. We all make operational mistakes, but I can't understand why your management did that. If you can shed some light, then do it. And I do slam some RJ pilots who think their poop doesn't stink, but others are doing a good job and want out. Some are lifers and want to stay in, which is understandable too, unless they are RJDC pukes who want larger planes without having to start over like the rest of us..... So, answer me the question why you think your management parked a fleet for a weekend? And no, I am not doing this to increase my post number. Good one.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I would also like to know why we arbitrairly nixed all 190 flights and shunned 190 exclusive markets. I can forgive the initial decision not to cancel everything the day before even if I don't agree with it, because at the time we were working with a forcast that in retrospect ended up being far worse than predicted. We still should have drawn down the schedule in anticipation though.

But days and days of VFR later, why do we can the 190 routes and cities? Especially when these were ALL new cities/markets we were trying to build? Wasn't that the reason for the 25 dollar intro fares? To create a buzz so people talk about us and build the brand? I bet folks in those markets are talking about us now.

Even if canceling all 190 ops simplified things and "added additional bandwidth" (inside joke) I still don't see why we couldn't add one flight a day in an Airbus to 190 exclusive cities. Or do a case by case 190 out and back for just a few of them. If gate space or other resources were the issue, than cancel one of our 20 billion daily FLL, BUF or MCO flights and do one flight to PIT, RIC, BDA, BNA, etc. either in a 320 or a 190 in stead of shafting 100% of those customers in those budding markets for a whole week. It seems we did something drastic just to do something. I disagree with this particular decision and think it will harm us far more medium term than it has helped us short term by helping to expidite getting things up and running.

I don't say long term because I think this too shall pass, but if it takes a year for a new station to break even, and most new stations were 190 only markets, and those markets just got screwed in favor of other markets, then maybe we'll lose money on said new markets for 2 years now because of this. And we opened a lot of still new markets in the last year that were disproportionately affected by this reactionary 190 cancellation decision. Also worth noting, being an airline who can't stand the sight of our own blood in the water, are we now going to retreat from these markets like we did in ATL? Oh right, I forgot, we were making money hand over fist in ATL, but we could have made even more money elsewhere, so we pulled out. Right.

Also, someone else pointed out that since many issues were related to FA staffing (easy, fellas) 4 FA's on a 320 can move 150 people. 4 FA's on 2 190's can move 200 people. Hmmmmm.

I don't think the General would lose any sleep if we went out of business, but I don't think he's being unfair by asking that question either. Many people inside and outside JB would like a logical answer. Unlike the decision to press on on Velentine's day with the weather forcast we had, this was a much more calculated decision with more time to prepare and chose our strategy, and it just makes no sense on any level.
 
E190 Parking

I think this decision will be second guessed for years.

There may have been some over reaction.

They may have been worried of bringing on a cascade failure to the A320s.
They briefly considered shutting the whole airline down at least once.
The operational recovery was severely impacted due to single runway operations on Thur/Friday. By eliminating the E190s, gates and manpower were given some breathing room. The crew members on the ground were given some breathing room.


As far as running a 320 in to the 190 markets... that would have been another variable that would have been added.

Drastic... Yes. Damaging.. Yes..
But as they say.. its all about the recovery.
 
We all have our bad days. You guys had a really bad week. I wanted to know if any of you figured out why you parked a whole fleet, and in the process pizzed off 9 cities that only E190s fly to? If you don't have the answer, then say that. We all make operational mistakes, but I can't understand why your management did that. If you can shed some light, then do it. And I do slam some RJ pilots who think their poop doesn't stink, but others are doing a good job and want out. Some are lifers and want to stay in, which is understandable too, unless they are RJDC pukes who want larger planes without having to start over like the rest of us..... So, answer me the question why you think your management parked a fleet for a weekend? And no, I am not doing this to increase my post number. Good one.

Bye Bye--General Lee


General,

I don't have the answer. I have no earthly idea why our management parked the 190's for 3 days. It makes as much sense to me as 8300 posts over 4.5 years. Just kidding, it makes less sense. I think the decision was made in haste, and once it was made it only made sense to carry on with it. As some of the details start surfacing you begin to get a picture of what was going on. There were plenty of crews, just no way to figure out where they were and how to staff each flight. Someone made the decision to park the 190's because at the time it seemed like the only logical way to get caught up...I assume. A huge clusterfugg, hopefully never to happen again. We won't survive too many of those.
 
Yo Jetpipeovheat,
The avitar is funny, but wiping your winkey with someone's wifes face? Whats your problem? I would think that something a moderator should look at.
 
Hate to interject but "RJ Boy" probably makes more money than you in your E190 with "Blue Juice" painted on the nose.

Maybe you should keep your resume updated so it will be ready when your 5 year contract expires.

Besides you fly a mainline aircraft for RJ wages. Great Job!!

He obviously hurting and embar"ass"ed right now. His company just demonstrated it's not any better than any other, despite the fantasy of Neeleman and those who drink the juice. Aside from distracting the customers with TV, they're just another coach seat. A demonstration of that fantasy is the erronous belief that I WANT to work there. Made 125K here, flying a smaller plane, so what does that tell you ?

My resume will never cross that desk, so no worry.

JetBlue has always been overrated and overhyped. Last week finally proved it.
 
Dude, I made $26 an hour my first year at NWA. I flew 120 seat dc9s. I am making $47 in my first year at JB. Upgrade to Capt in year 2. Any more questions? By the way, either you are drunk or you can't spell.

If NWA is your "legacy" move, you're better off shooting craps at JetBlow.
 
general,

i was told when i came to work on saturday that we grounded the E-190 was due to not enough FA's. so many were out of position, lost in crewtrac, (calling in sick) that we had to consolidate. yes, it was that bad. something i had never seen before.
 
general,

i was told when i came to work on saturday that we grounded the E-190 was due to not enough FA's. so many were out of position, lost in crewtrac, (calling in sick) that we had to consolidate. yes, it was that bad. something i had never seen before.

I thought they only hired die-hard loyalists ?

Calling in sick ?

Say it ain't so.
 
8vATE:

Congrats on the raises, you guys deserve it.
Just wondering, in all seriousness, how much do you think this cost your company in a $ amount in cancellations and rebookings?
Its bound to put a serious hurt on this quarters' earnings.
regards,

737


$20 to $30 mil for the first quarter.

Who said the airline industry was for the faint of heart?

PS...
I'm on Doogie's recall list..
And I got that going for me.... which is nice.
 
He obviously hurting and embar"ass"ed right now. His company just demonstrated it's not any better than any other, despite the fantasy of Neeleman and those who drink the juice. Aside from distracting the customers with TV, they're just another coach seat. A demonstration of that fantasy is the erronous belief that I WANT to work there. Made 125K here, flying a smaller plane, so what does that tell you ?

My resume will never cross that desk, so no worry.

JetBlue has always been overrated and overhyped. Last week finally proved it.
Not at all. I lived through this at NWA. It will pass and we will be fine. If you do not know that about this industry, then you need more seasoning. The $125k sounds suspect. If you claim it to be so then I guess I am forced to credit your honesty, however looking at rj pay scales, it is hard to make those numbers stand up. I really do not claim you want to work here. As a matter of fact, I really do not think a left seater at any regional should consider JB right now. The upgrade time here is too long and there are better possibilities out there. I will tell you that I stand by Neelman and this product he created. The people love it and when this hype blows over it will probably end up as a neutral event--meaning people will remember the name of JetBlue where we do not fly yet and all they will remember is TVs and comfy seats and a great price. Thats what I believe and I don't know why you can not accept that there are folks working here that believe it as well.
 
If NWA is your "legacy" move, you're better off shooting craps at JetBlow.
Dude, the flying job is for fun. I am pretty senior at NWA and I took a voluntary furlough. The money is not everything and I could make your salary as an FO. NWA has some great things going for it--probably better than where you are. If you are a left seater at Eagle you have great opportunities elsewhere. Why not take them?
 
Dude, I made $26 an hour my first year at NWA. I flew 120 seat dc9s. I am making $47 in my first year at JB. Upgrade to Capt in year 2. Any more questions? By the way, either you are drunk or you can't spell.



Ok dude, what were you making at Year 2 at NWA flying that Diesel 9 around???? And year two at JB??? Ya thought so....and don't quote post BK pay rates, as those are the results of the likes of JB rates...
 
Dude, the flying job is for fun. I am pretty senior at NWA and I took a voluntary furlough. The money is not everything and I could make your salary as an FO. NWA has some great things going for it--probably better than where you are. If you are a left seater at Eagle you have great opportunities elsewhere. Why not take them?

Why is it any business of yours? Who are you his daddy? People with your "I fly for fun" attitude make me sick because you are part of the problem for pilots that have to fly for a living. You sit there and mock RJ pilots while you sit in your very own RJ.

Mods: I apologize for the wife comments, I was drunk and pissed off at this reject! But the posts could have been edited and not deleted entirely. So if you are going to do a mods job do it right.
 
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Ok dude, what were you making at Year 2 at NWA flying that Diesel 9 around???? And year two at JB??? Ya thought so....and don't quote post BK pay rates, as those are the results of the likes of JB rates...
Year 2 I at JB I will be making the same because I will upgrade to Capt on the 190. I can quote any rates I like because I lived through the BK at NWA and earned my spurs. By year 5 (4 years from now) I will upgrade to left seat on the Airbus. 4 years from now at NWA I could probably be in the right seat of the 320 or 757. That is barring age 60 to 65, mergers, and "Compass" stealing 100 seat flying or the retirement of the DC9. Some pretty big ifs. Ya I thought so.
 
Ok dude, what were you making at Year 2 at NWA flying that Diesel 9 around???? And year two at JB??? Ya thought so....and don't quote post BK pay rates, as those are the results of the likes of JB rates...

+1

someone gets it! Wow.. there is hope!


btw... JB will look like Delta or United when Skybus rolls out their pay rates for FO..
 
Why is it any business of yours? Who are you his daddy? People with your "I fly for fun" attitude make me sick because you are part of the problem for pilots that have to fly for a living. You sit there and mock RJ pilots while you sit in your very own RJ.

Mods: I apologize for the wife comments, I was drunk and pissed off at this reject! But the posts could have been edited and not deleted entirely. So if you are going to do a mods job do it right.
Let me just save time by cutting and pasting my reply to your other drunken rant. I am laughing my a$$ off that you would actually write "I apologise for wanting to sexually denegrating this guy's wife but I was drunk" Dude do you know how sick you sound? Gee thats ok Jetpipe, after all you were drunk--and that excuses everything! And that after your claim to fame is making fun of a drunken Parker. You kill me! Anyway I will cut and past the other reply that covers all the basics:
Deli Guy answer covering essentially all the same Jetpipeovht garbage:
Are you sure you are still not drunk? Drunk and wanting to bruise the back of my wifes throat? Drunk and having a "profile" about slapping other guy's wife's face with your winkie? A little harsh? Dude you are sick. Go back and look at Eagleflys origional post. That was high and mighty. I think my sh*t does stink--in fact I know it does. I am quite regular. Detriment to our profession? Dude have the scrotum to tell me where you work and I will point out all the ways you are a detriment to our profession. We are all a detriment to our profession. Give up the hobby? Ok, I work hard to get where I am. I manage my life to a point where I can follow a couple of different avenues. You think that is a bad thing because you just want to fly airplanes 15 days a month and have the company and union give you the rest so that you can drink and watch porn the other 15 days. How about if you get up off your drunken a$$ and work a little harder. Why don't you stop relying on "the Man" to provide everything for you. The sooner you realize you need to be doing something on the side and not relying on unions and managements whims--the better off you will be. Tons of other pilots have figured that out. Sorry you would rather stare at porn and get drunk. That is a great solution.....or is it part of the problem?
 
Year 2 I at JB I will be making the same because I will upgrade to Capt on the 190. I can quote any rates I like because I lived through the BK at NWA and earned my spurs. By year 5 (4 years from now) I will upgrade to left seat on the Airbus. 4 years from now at NWA I could probably be in the right seat of the 320 or 757. That is barring age 60 to 65, mergers, and "Compass" stealing 100 seat flying or the retirement of the DC9. Some pretty big ifs. Ya I thought so.

OH MY GOD!! I thought you were a Captain. I guess I gave you a little too much credit given your distinguished resume. You mean to tell me you have the balls to call an Eagle Captain RJ boy from the RIGHT seat of your RJ. Please the more you yap the more stupid you look.

Please continue...
 
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Are you sure you are still not drunk? Drunk and wanting to bruise the back of my wifes throat? Drunk and having a "profile" about slapping other guy's wife's face with your winkie? A little harsh? Dude you are sick. Go back and look at Eagleflys origional post. That was high and mighty. I think my sh*t does stink--in fact I know it does. I am quite regular. Detriment to our profession? Dude have the scrotum to tell me where you work and I will point out all the ways you are a detriment to our profession. We are all a detriment to our profession. Give up the hobby? Ok, I work hard to get where I am. I manage my life to a point where I can follow a couple of different avenues. You think that is a bad thing because you just want to fly airplanes 15 days a month and have the company and union give you the rest so that you can drink and watch porn the other 15 days. How about if you get up off your drunken a$$ and work a little harder. Why don't you stop relying on "the Man" to provide everything for you. The sooner you realize you need to be doing something on the side and not relying on unions and managements whims--the better off you will be. Tons of other pilots have figured that out. Sorry you would rather stare at porn and get drunk. That is a great solution.....or is it part of the problem?

Dude, you scare me.. I don't understand it... you're a real pilot, and you think working 15 days a months is somehow making out? Do you not like seeing your family? So what would you have us do, work the same 20 days in a 28 day month like those who go home every night?

Are you aware of the following:

When you see a pilot going through the same security you go through,
he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking in the terminal, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot at the gate pulling up paper work, planning the
flight, and conferring with the agent, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking around the aircraft doing a preflight
inspection, he's not being paid.

When you board the aircraft and look in the cockpit and see the pilots
setting up the aircraft, they're not getting paid.

When you land safely at your destination and walk off the aircraft and
see the pilots shutting down the aircraft, they're not being paid.

When you see a pilot waiting for a ride to a hotel for the night, he's
not being paid.

The only time the pilot of your aircraft is getting paid is when you
DON"T see him... when he's locked behind the cockpit door as you push back from the gate. Every thing else he does until this point is for free. For no wages. Nothing!

The average airline pilot is at work for 12- 14 hours per day, yet gets
paid for less than 6 - 7 hours.

The average airline pilot is away from home, at work, for 70+ hours a
week, yet gets paid for only 15 to 18 hours per weeks work.

Most pilots schedules have them working 15 days or more a month... that
means they are not at home half the month.

Holidays, weekends, birthdays, anniversaries, summer vacations.... not
at home.

A majority of pilots have 4 year college degrees, or more. Then they
begin training as pilots.

A large majority of Pilots have spent 8 years or more flying in the military, risking their lives and protecting your freedom for wages most of you wouldn't accept in the civilian world.

Civilian trained pilots have spent $50,000 or more to acquire the training that qualifies them for a Regional Airline job, which pays a wage less than the poverty level in most western countries.

Most pilots do not attain the required experience level to be hired by a major airline until they are well passed the age of 30. The average age
of a new hire airline pilot is 32.

Airline pilots are required to retire at the age of 60. This gives most of them less than 28 years to maximize their income and fund their pensions, hoping that greedy airline execs won't steal it.

Airline pilots are subject to random drug and alcohol testing, any time
they are at work. Fail it and they lose their job.

Airline pilots are required to undergo rigorous re-training and certification every 6 to 9 months, at which time they could fail and lose their jobs, licenses and livelihood.

Airline pilots are required to submit to random government "Line checks"
during which their license could be revoked and livelihood destroyed.

Airline pilots are exposed to radiation levels far exceeding the normal
safe radiation limits mandated by the FDA.

Airline pilots are required to submit to a government medical
examination every 6 months (Captains) and 12 months as First Officers. Year after year. Fail that, and their career is over.

How many of you go to work where people try to kill you? How many of
you have had your office turned into a cruise missile? How many of you work behind a bullet proof door?

How many of you are responsible for the lives of 200- 300 people, with
any small mistake in your performance resulting in the death of your
customers (and yourselves), and the financial destruction of your company?

How many of your jobs require you to fight your way through thunderstorms, rain, snow, ice and turbulence, day and night, year after year? No mistakes allowed? The excuse " I had a bad day at work" never accepted?

Many pilots volunteer (on their own time and own dime) to be trained as
Federal Flight Deck Officers, and carry weapons to defend their aircraft,
crew and passengers. They maintain their proficiency and qualifications
twice a year on their own time and money.

How many of you go to work where you are searched, patted down and your personal items scrutinized by strangers, even though you can kill
everyone in your place of work with your two bare hands?

Airline pilot pay scales and hours worked are usually posted by absurdly
overcompensated Airline Exec's who are waging a PR campaign against
their Pilot Unions and trying to justify their own greedy bonus's and
draconian wage and pension cuts. Cheap ass airline passengers just love this ******************** since they don't care if their airplane is flown by the lowest
denominator, as long as they can fly for next to nothing. Course if they don't get to their destination, their next of kin can sue....
 
OH.. wait.. I get it now. "Mil Ret" that says it all..

Say no more. Hypocrite.
 
OH MY GOD!! I thought you were a Captain. I guess I gave you a little too much credit given your distinguished resume. You mean to tell me you have the balls to call an Eagle Captain RJ boy from the RIGHT seat of your RJ. Please the more you yap the more stupid you look.

Please continue...
Why would it make a difference if I was a Captain or not? I have plenty of Captain PIC time flying around the world, and I will be a Captain again very soon at JB. Why should I fall all over an Eagle Captain? Yes, after his initial post, I have no problem calling him rj boy. Again if you had the scrotum to announce where you work, we could disect how you add to the problem. But alas--another FI coward....and a drunken perv at that. You have so much credability. If you want to call the 190 an rj, be my guest. What do you make on the right seat of your rj? Are you on food stamps? That is what I am talking about. From the right seat of your 50 seat rj, you act like you are not part of the problem. If you could just get the hours, you can get to the big leagues--then what? See Delta Continental US Air Northwest United TWA Eastern Pan AM etc etc. I think we have each other summed up. You are a drunken pervert, who wants to cry when capitalism, supply and demand, political forces and terrorism take a toll on the industry and you are not smart enough to put food on your table. I have chosen another path.
 
Dude, you scare me.. I don't understand it... you're a real pilot, and you think working 15 days a months is somehow making out? Do you not like seeing your family? So what would you have us do, work the same 20 days in a 28 day month like those who go home every night?

Are you aware of the following:

When you see a pilot going through the same security you go through,
he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking in the terminal, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot at the gate pulling up paper work, planning the
flight, and conferring with the agent, he's not being paid.

When you see a pilot walking around the aircraft doing a preflight
inspection, he's not being paid.

When you board the aircraft and look in the cockpit and see the pilots
setting up the aircraft, they're not getting paid.

When you land safely at your destination and walk off the aircraft and
see the pilots shutting down the aircraft, they're not being paid.

When you see a pilot waiting for a ride to a hotel for the night, he's
not being paid.

The only time the pilot of your aircraft is getting paid is when you
DON"T see him... when he's locked behind the cockpit door as you push back from the gate. Every thing else he does until this point is for free. For no wages. Nothing!

The average airline pilot is at work for 12- 14 hours per day, yet gets
paid for less than 6 - 7 hours.

The average airline pilot is away from home, at work, for 70+ hours a
week, yet gets paid for only 15 to 18 hours per weeks work.

Most pilots schedules have them working 15 days or more a month... that
means they are not at home half the month.

Holidays, weekends, birthdays, anniversaries, summer vacations.... not
at home.

A majority of pilots have 4 year college degrees, or more. Then they
begin training as pilots.

A large majority of Pilots have spent 8 years or more flying in the military, risking their lives and protecting your freedom for wages most of you wouldn't accept in the civilian world.

Civilian trained pilots have spent $50,000 or more to acquire the training that qualifies them for a Regional Airline job, which pays a wage less than the poverty level in most western countries.

Most pilots do not attain the required experience level to be hired by a major airline until they are well passed the age of 30. The average age
of a new hire airline pilot is 32.

Airline pilots are required to retire at the age of 60. This gives most of them less than 28 years to maximize their income and fund their pensions, hoping that greedy airline execs won't steal it.

Airline pilots are subject to random drug and alcohol testing, any time
they are at work. Fail it and they lose their job.

Airline pilots are required to undergo rigorous re-training and certification every 6 to 9 months, at which time they could fail and lose their jobs, licenses and livelihood.

Airline pilots are required to submit to random government "Line checks"
during which their license could be revoked and livelihood destroyed.

Airline pilots are exposed to radiation levels far exceeding the normal
safe radiation limits mandated by the FDA.

Airline pilots are required to submit to a government medical
examination every 6 months (Captains) and 12 months as First Officers. Year after year. Fail that, and their career is over.

How many of you go to work where people try to kill you? How many of
you have had your office turned into a cruise missile? How many of you work behind a bullet proof door?

How many of you are responsible for the lives of 200- 300 people, with
any small mistake in your performance resulting in the death of your
customers (and yourselves), and the financial destruction of your company?

How many of your jobs require you to fight your way through thunderstorms, rain, snow, ice and turbulence, day and night, year after year? No mistakes allowed? The excuse " I had a bad day at work" never accepted?

Many pilots volunteer (on their own time and own dime) to be trained as
Federal Flight Deck Officers, and carry weapons to defend their aircraft,
crew and passengers. They maintain their proficiency and qualifications
twice a year on their own time and money.

How many of you go to work where you are searched, patted down and your personal items scrutinized by strangers, even though you can kill
everyone in your place of work with your two bare hands?

Airline pilot pay scales and hours worked are usually posted by absurdly
overcompensated Airline Exec's who are waging a PR campaign against
their Pilot Unions and trying to justify their own greedy bonus's and
draconian wage and pension cuts. Cheap ass airline passengers just love this ******************** since they don't care if their airplane is flown by the lowest
denominator, as long as they can fly for next to nothing. Course if they don't get to their destination, their next of kin can sue....
No Dude,
I loved working less than 15 days and getting paid fairly well. That was then, this is now. Its just that I have seen a lot of airlines fail, so I stuck it out in the reserves, you know, a second job so that if the gravy train ever ended.....and it did...I could provide for the fam instead of whining. I started a business that I enjoyed and amazingly it prospered and is running with little effort. I guess you want me to apologize for being prepared, but I won't. I do not apologize for flying in the Middle East, being shot at, wearing chem gear during approaches into blacked out fields, while you and Jetpipeovheat were doing whatever it was you were doing. You can slam military guys all you want--I know where I've been--how about you?
 
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No Dude,
I loved working less than 15 days and getting paid fairly well. Its just that I have seen a lot of airlines fail, so I stuck it out in the reserves, you know, a second job so that if the gravy train ever ended.....and it did...I could provide for the fam instead of whining. I started a business that I enjoyed and amazingly it prospered and is running with little effort. I guess you want me to apologize for being prepared, but I won't. I do not apologize for flying in the Middle East, being shot at, wearing chem gear during approaches into blacked out fields, while you and Jetpipeovheat were doing whatever it was you were doing. You can slam military guys all you want--I know where I've been--how about you?

You are a real flip flopper aren't ya? You are just contradicting yourself more and more. Game over.

As for my employment well let's just say I don't fly RJ's and I am not in the right seat.

V70 nor I bash military guys, just the ignorant pukes that come to this profession from 20 years in the military with this sense of entitlement and have not seen their livelyhood destroyed over the years. You may have seen all you have seen but in this business you have experienced nothing and your ignorance is certain.
 
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You are a real flip flopper aren't ya? You are just contradicting yourself more and more. Game over.

As for my employment well let's just say I don't fly RJ's and I am not in the right seat.

V70 nor I bash military guys, just the ignorant pukes that come to this profession from 20 years in the military with this sense of entitlement and have not seen their livelyhood destroyed over the years. You may have seen all you have seen but in this business you have experienced nothing and your ignorance is certain.
I think flip flopping is being so proud of your fetish of putting your winkey in other pilots wives faces while they are on a trip, and then apologizing by saying you were just drunk ....that you used it in your profile! Game over? Because winkey wiper says so? Good humor. As for your employment, lets just say you sound like 3210lt. Have the ball$ to make your case. Until then you are a coward. V70 did bash military guys. It is in print above. I have no sense of entitlement due to my mil time. I have experienced nothing in this industry? I have an ALPA strike pin. Do you? I have had a NWA retirement frozen. I have sat through the post 9-11 furloughs while serving my country. Please coward boy, could you give us your vast experience and insight? Or are you looking at "Wives I'd like to whack in the face with my winkey.com" while drinking more. I will let others determine my ignorance.
 
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