JetBlue Cost Cutting?

[IntheShade]

I am not trying to start a flame bait here, I just want to know if anyone else heard the same thing I did.

I was told that as a cost cutting measure JetBlue pilots were going to be required to work one day a month in Dispatch as janitors.

Anyone confirm this?

 

[atafan]

IntheShade,

Wow!

I can't believe it, I heard that Jet Blue's janitors were replacing pilots at your airline. :laugh:

 

[IB6 UB9]

I am not trying to start a flame bait here, I just want to know if anyone else heard the same thing I did.

I was told that as a cost cutting measure JetBlue pilots were going to be required to work one day a month in Dispatch as janitors.

Anyone confirm this?

I confirm it. It is in fact a shared position with another crewmember, so it is really just 1/2 a day each. We start July 1st in the Orlando training center, on an off day of course, our one day of Dispatch janitor training. However, we are given positive space to get there.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

I heard single pilot ops to China single engine with dogs at the controls and coke machines in the back next to people sitting on lawn chairs in the dark holding flashlights hand cranking generators to power the live tv.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

I can't confirm that but I can confirm you may re-apply in six months. I am guessing it won't be successful then either...

 

[canyonblue]

We make the Janitors pay for their Janitor Type, we want serious people dangit.

 

[Eagleflip]

The FAA has even designated a new medical for our Dispatch Janitor position, annotated as the Class 1J. You must have a semi-annual ECG, blood pressure, the normal array of sight and hearing tests, as well as prove that you do not currently have, nor have you attained, bleu janitorus carpal bursitis, commonly referred to as janitor's carpal tunnel syndrom.

Since we only do this one day of the month, and since we only refuel aircraft on our remaining 14-16 days off, well...the chances of acquiring such a dreaded disease is small.

Smaller than, say, your ego.

 

[Dogwood]

I can't confirm that but I can confirm you may re-apply in six months. I am guessing it won't be successful then either...

Perfect answer. Thanks. That's all these silly posts deserve.

I believe it's called sour grapes.

Folks get turned down, signup with a new screen name, then start bashing JetBlue. It only proves that our interview process works pretty good.

I guess pilots are too good to straighten a few seat belts, and throw away a couple of coffee cups.

Some people just don't get it.

Again, they was the best reply you could have come up with.

DW

 

[Ty Webb]

I heard that Professor Joe V. is back from his 12 month tour of Thailand's "lady-boy" clubs.

Starting this string would seem to confirm it.


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[coogebeachhotel]

Perfect answer. Thanks. That's all these silly posts deserve.

I believe it's called sour grapes.

Folks get turned down, signup with a new screen name, then start bashing JetBlue. It only proves that our interview process works pretty good.

I guess pilots are too good to straighten a few seat belts, and throw away a couple of coffee cups.

Some people just don't get it.

Again, they was the best reply you could have come up with.

DW

Dude lighten up. It's all in humor. Don't take yourself so seriously.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

that's right

I am not trying to start a flame bait here, I just want to know if anyone else heard the same thing I did.

I was told that as a cost cutting measure JetBlue pilots were going to be required to work one day a month in Dispatch as janitors.

Anyone confirm this?

Yes, but only for those who have previous time in janitorial type within the preceeding 24 months or else you'll need to be requaled. All the garbage that's picked up will be happily shoved up your rectum at 3000 PSI.

 

[CaptainMark]

speaking of JB costcutting....just curious...2 times in the last few months i was coming out of the west coast and 2 JB flights were diverting to Vegas (different days) because they stated they did not have enough fuel to make it to destination( i'm guessing LA)...they only stated their problem after repeated questioning from atc...is JB skimping on your fuel? that would suck!

 

[Spectre]

speaking of JB costcutting....just curious...2 times in the last few months i was coming out of the west coast and 2 JB flights were diverting to Vegas (different days) because they stated they did not have enough fuel to make it to destination( i'm guessing LA)...they only stated their problem after repeated questioning from atc...is JB skimping on your fuel? that would suck!

JetBlue is not skimping on fuel. The A320 is limited on west coast runs if winds are high or our destination requires an alternate. When things work well, you don't hear about it. Pilots are making the correct judgement to divert for fuel. If people don't like, then don't have to fly for 99 bucks with TV's and leather seats. JetBlue usually gives them a $50 voucher on another flight and 80% of the people are ok with that. When we get the A330s, this will no longer be a problem...Actually, I heard the gas prices were cheaper in Vegas vs. New York, so all of JetBlue's westbound aircraft have been getting gas there.

 

[CaptainMark]

that's cool....we are a supplemental carrier and require alternates every flight so rarely do we get into that...just curious..thanks

 

[IB6 UB9]

Those flights were test runs with the FAA onboard. We are trying to get a waver that allows us to drop the 45 minute reserve. Don't anybody get excited, its for B6 only. I did one of these "Zero Reserve" flights the other day and had the #2 engine flame out while taxiing to the gate in Long Beach, much to the 'attaboys' by the FAA on board who were delighted by the excellent fuel planning of our company. The problem with the two that landed in LAS were bad wind estimates by the Dispatch Janitors.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

I did one of these "Zero Reserve" flights the other day and had the #2 engine flame out while taxiing to the gate in Long Beach, much to the 'attaboys' by the FAA on board who were delighted by the excellent fuel planning of our company.

That's alright.. I'll fly someone else that takes adequate fuel!

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Those flights were test runs with the FAA onboard. We are trying to get a waver that allows us to drop the 45 minute reserve. Don't anybody get excited, its for B6 only. I did one of these "Zero Reserve" flights the other day and had the #2 engine flame out while taxiing to the gate in Long Beach, much to the 'attaboys' by the FAA on board who were delighted by the excellent fuel planning of our company. The problem with the two that landed in LAS were bad wind estimates by the Dispatch Janitors.

I hope you had approval to ignore normal SOP of shutting down #2 at TOD. Jet A don't grow on trees.

 

[IB6 UB9]

That's alright.. I'll fly someone else that takes adequate fuel!

You mean too much fuel right?

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I have been flying exclusively on the APU and 1 engine to save fuel...

HighSpeed ... you need to stop believing these jb threads!

 

[Blue Dude]

You guys are using way too much gas. Start the APU at TOD and shut them both down. You only need an engine to level off anyway, not to descend. What were you thinking?

BTW, the APU is optional. If your RAT has been ops checked in the last 30 days, it's not necessary. Just make sure to keep the airspeed in the windmill airstart window and you're good to go.

 

[Ty Webb]

"If you're gonna be shuttin down all the fans, at least open the DV window, would ya? I need a little air in mah face . . . . . haah! Kiss myself!"

Captain James Brown



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[HighSpeedClimb]

I have been flying exclusively on the APU and 1 engine to save fuel...

HighSpeed ... you need to stop believing these jb threads!

I know, I know..I sucked myself down that pass. I am curious though, I've flown on JB a few times from JFK to OAK and the flight was 5.47 with no stops. Seems like the Bus shouldn't have a problem with that route. Of course, I don't fly over the US so I don't know how those routes are flight planned. We fly a straight shot over the Pacific.
JB's service is so good that I'd fly you guys even if you were just burning the APU and dead sticking it into OAK.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I know, I know..I sucked myself down that pass. I am curious though, I've flown on JB a few times from JFK to OAK and the flight was 5.47 with no stops. Seems like the Bus shouldn't have a problem with that route. Of course, I don't fly over the US so I don't know how those routes are flight planned. We fly a straight shot over the Pacific.
JB's service is so good that I'd fly you guys even if you were just burning the APU and dead sticking it into OAK.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about -- Good jb pr from HighSpeed ...

In all honesty, sometimes the winds kick the airbus ass. Most (and I mean 99%) times, the winds don't. Either way, we have an outstanding product. Yeah, we have problems, and yeah, we need to improve pay rates, and yeah, we need to give great service .. oh that's right, we already do that.

Anyway, you know, jb is a good place to work. The risk at this point is certainly great, but so is the reward. It doesn't surprise me that jb (livetv) is gonna be at the forefront of innovating internet access on airline flights. It's what jb does. We innovate.

As for that service you love, the tag line at jb for YEARS has been "bringing humanity back to air travel" -- a lofty, but attainable goal. And considering all of the awards that jb has won in the service area (http://www.jetblue.com/learnmore/awards.html), we must be doing something right!

I try to deflect all jb crap with sarcarsm, so it's good to hear a js-er state the truth about jb -- in the end I don't have to work that hard on a response.

There's way too much negative on this board about jb!

 

[scrub]

It will fly over gross but not under gassed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[B6Driver]

Not true!
What about forward momentum and gravity helping you out on the last part of the arrival?

 

[Pitot]

I would think you will see the new winglet mods on the transcons very soon.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

I would think you will see the new winglet mods on the transcons very soon.

True, this is what they do for an NG

IMPROVED TAKEOFF PERFORMANCE
By allowing a steeper climb, winglets pay off in better takeoff performance, especially from obstacle-limited, high, hot, weight-limited, and/or noise-restricted airports. Performance Improved climb gradients increase 737-800 allowable takeoff weight (TOW).

REDUCED ENGINE MAINTENANCE COSTS

Better climb performance also allows lower thrust settings, thus extending engine life and reducing maintenance costs. Lower Required Thrust Levels Extend On-Wing Life.

Takeoff - Winglets allow up to 3% incremental derate.
Cruise - Cruise thrust levels are reduced by up to 4%.

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FUEL SAVINGS
Winglets lower drag and improve aerodynamic efficiency, thus reducing fuel burn. Depending on the missions you fly, blended winglets can improve cruise fuel mileage up to 6 percent, especially important during a time of rising fuel prices.

INCREASED PAYLOAD RANGE
The addition of Aviation Partners Blended Winglets to the 737 Next Generation has demonstrated drag reduction in the 5 to 7% range that measurably increases range and fuel efficiency . In addition, the Blended Winglets allow the 737-NG to take off from higher, hotter airports with increased payload.

SeriesRange (nm) NormalRange (nm) With Winglets-
700 3250 3634

800 2930 3060​

 

[IntheShade]

Smaller than, say, your ego.

Concur.