Jet Time

[RockBass14]

I heard from a ex-chicago express CA that because all his time is in a Saab a lot of places wont look at him. I.E. FedEx, UPS and will be stuck at another regional. I think he had close to 1800 PIC Turbine, and he said they just wont look at him because he dosnt have jet time. How true does this typically hold throughout the industry?

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[Tooslow]

Tell him colgan might hire him as a CA

 

[Rook]

I heard from a ex-chicago express CA that because all his time is in a Saab a lot of places wont look at him. I.E. FedEx, UPS and will be stuck at another regional. I think he had close to 1800 PIC Turbine, and he said they just wont look at him because he dosnt have jet time. How true does this typically hold throughout the industry?

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A lot of our old ex-SF3 CA's went to Fedex before the CRJ's arrived so I'd call it bogus. Plus not all military pilots have an enormous amount of jet time. 130 drivers in the USAF flew jets in UPT, but not for thousands of hours. It's the quality of the turbine time. If your friend is competing with 130 or P-3 drivers from the AF,Navy,CG,USMC, then he might be at a disadvantage albeit slight. Hope this adds some insight.

Rook

 

[BoilerUP]

There have been former Chicago Express pilots hired at UPS...

 

[BRA]

The saab people from colgan have been getting hired into the bigger jets. If i had to guess many of them had somewhere around 5000 total time with 2000 of it being turbine PIC. Some may have been also typed in the beech 1900. I think most didn't have any jet time.Does your friend have anything you don't know about.....such as DUI, or no college degree? Could be the reason.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Post-9/11, Great Lakes has seen people go to FedEx, Alaska, SWA, AWA, AirTran, Frontier and others after only 1900D or perhaps some EMB-120 PIC flight time.

I would second the previous respondent's query about your friend's record. Maybe there's something on it that's hurting him/her. Also, in this current environment, you need connections and solid references.

 

[Wesb737fo]

Well...I hope most of the C8 guys have found employment. It's supply and demand. Turboprop PIC is good, but stacked against all the furloughed folks with more experience, trying to land a job with the majors (that are hiring) is tough. An inside rec. or check airman status (or something extra to put on the resume) might help.
I know a guy with 3 types , 6200 TT, 2000 PIC Turbine who is still waiting for a call from SWA. I hear that those numbers are on the low end of the competitive mins. But hey...things could change.

 

[BRA]

I would guess that all the colgan people hired as of late had walked in resumes. There are people furloughed out there but they are not all as competitive as some would think. I know there are many that got in because they did an internship or got in during very good hiring times and had little to no turbine PIC time. I fly a lowly turbo prop and i can apply to places that these highly experienced furloughed pilots can't. I've got 1000 PIC. How many were hired at USair, TWA, United, and ATA that didn't? My guess is a lot of the highly qualified furloughed pilots that had the 1000 turbine PIC number have found work elsewhere by now.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

I've heard of at least 1 Lakes pilot hired by FDX strait out of the 1900.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I would guess that all the colgan people hired as of late had walked in resumes.

This was a few years back but a friend walked his own resume in to Colgan at HEF and was hired on the spot since this was the first day of a new class and a few new hires didn't show. I'm not sure you have to wait around for a class date to walk your own in though. Colgan is a relatively small company and, if you take that little extra bit of personal interest in them it could make the difference. What do you think BRA?

 

[Standby 1]

I've heard of at least 1 Lakes pilot hired by FDX strait out of the 1900.

Would that be the same guy whose father is high up in Flt Ops?





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[BlackPilot628]

We had 6 guys leave Corpex and go to AirTran with in 3 months of each other. They had anywhere from 1100 PIC to 1500 PIC in the JS32.
We also had 1 guy go to the B757 at America West and 1 guy go to Miami Air B738.

 

[avrodriver]

Same thread covered a million times:

Meet the minimums.

Keep in touch with as many contacts as you can.

One guys experience in no way guarantees the same for you, don't take it personal, just keep updating and building your resume.

Anybody can get hired to any major from any commuter/regional as long as they meet the minimums and even then sometimes there are exceptions. AD

 

[BigShotXJTdrvr]

Same thread covered a million times:

Meet the minimums.

Keep in touch with as many contacts as you can.

One guys experience in no way guarantees the same for you, don't take it personal, just keep updating and building your resume.

Anybody can get hired to any major from any commuter/regional as long as they meet the minimums and even then sometimes there are exceptions. AD

This is 100% correct. Things change. The pilot market changes. When I got hired a XJET before 9/11 there was a lot of hiring going on everywhere, it was really more of a job-seekers market. There were many Beech/ATR/EMB120 captains going to NW/FedEx/Delta etc... Now there is less hiring, and the companies can basically be as choosy as they want. As retirements accelerate everywhere in the next few years and flying increases across the board (the main restrictiion being the inadequacy of ATC to handle more flights), I predict we will be back to a pilot's job-market advantage (although the jobs will not be as good as they once were, which might make it even more advantageous for the people looking to get hired because less and less quailified guys will even want the "major" job anymore, further straining the ability of airlines to hire the same quality of people they are getting now. Things will change very quickly in the next few years. IF you want to stick around for your $29/hour "major" new-hire pay, and lots of other crappy work conditions, that is.

 

[BRA]

This was a few years back but a friend walked his own resume in to Colgan at HEF and was hired on the spot since this was the first day of a new class and a few new hires didn't show. I'm not sure you have to wait around for a class date to walk your own in though. Colgan is a relatively small company and, if you take that little extra bit of personal interest in them it could make the difference. What do you think BRA?

I meant colgan people hired at north american and airtran. But, yes i do agree with what you say.