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LeonPhelps

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Any Jet Blue bubbas out there have an answer to this one? If you get hired into the EMB190, and after the two year "seat lock" described in airlinepilotcentral.com...seniority permitting(of course), would you be able to upgrade straight to A320 captain, or anytime you go from the EMB190 to the A320 would you have to start in the right seat...regardless of seniority?

Thanks for the 411...
 
LeonPhelps said:
Any Jet Blue bubbas out there have an answer to this one? If you get hired into the EMB190, and after the two year "seat lock" described in airlinepilotcentral.com...seniority permitting(of course), would you be able to upgrade straight to A320 captain, or anytime you go from the EMB190 to the A320 would you have to start in the right seat...regardless of seniority?

Yes you could go to the left seat of the 320. There is no requirement to start in the right seat.
Mike
 
F70pilot said:
Speaking of the E-190, did anyone else see JetBlue in CLT on Friday?:cool:

As described in another post, that was a 190 on a FAA planned diversion during a proving run.
 
LeonPhelps said:
Any Jet Blue bubbas out there have an answer to this one? If you get hired into the EMB190, and after the two year "seat lock" described in airlinepilotcentral.com...seniority permitting(of course), would you be able to upgrade straight to A320 captain, or anytime you go from the EMB190 to the A320 would you have to start in the right seat...regardless of seniority?

Thanks for the 411...



I don't believe there is a "seat lock" on the 190, only an aircraft lock. It's simple. You're locked on the 190 for 24 months, than you can bid what ever you can hold. I think a new hire going to the 190 now, can hold a captain slot before the 24 months is up anyway.

I believe 320 captain is pushing 4 years now, but I'm not sure about that.

DW
 
A320 Captain at JetBlue is now running about 2.5 years. However, it is expected that incoming new hires in 2006 can expect maybe 3.5-4 years to A320 Captain. E190 Captain for 2006 new hires will be about 11-14 months (for those who choose the Embraer over the Airbus as a new hire). There is a two year aircraft lock, not a two year seat lock. In otherwords, an A320 new hire FO cannot bid E190 Captain until the two years is up. However, an E190 FO can bid E190 Captain before the end of two years.

For this reason, the E190 new hire classes are in higher demand and fill sooner than the A320classes. Usually, guys have to give up some seniority (a class or two) if they want the E190. Then again, there are more A320 slots than there are E190 slots.

Skirt
 
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Whenever a new aircraft is going to be put on an air carrier operating certificate, the company sets up a program. The program runs the gambit of protocols for how pilots and flight attendants will be trained, how mechanics will be trained, ground handling, servicing, boarding, evacuation drills, ditching drills.....you get the point.

Then the aircraft is flown with the initial cadre of check airmen. They put the aircraft through its paces and the FAA observes these flights. They do this for several days, then they "take over" and start handing the flight crews "scenarios" which the crew must deal with. It isn't just the pilots they are looking at, but the inflight crew, dispatch, maintenance, customer service....all departments that make up an airline.

The "diversion" to CLT was a scenario where the FAA wanted to see a diversion to a non JetBlue city. CLT was picked because of the weather and the pilots familiarity with the airport.

The company is basically "proving" to the FAA that they can operate the aircraft according to the FAR's and the scenarios prove the validity of the company policies and procedures. These scenarios help the company find the weak spots in their training policies/procedures, their operating procedures, and because it is a new aircraft, help them gain familiarity with it.

Hope that helps.

A350
 
A350 said:
Whenever a new aircraft is going to be put on an air carrier operating certificate, the company sets up a program. The program runs the gambit of protocols for how pilots and flight attendants will be trained, how mechanics will be trained, ground handling, servicing, boarding, evacuation drills, ditching drills.....you get the point.

Then the aircraft is flown with the initial cadre of check airmen. They put the aircraft through its paces and the FAA observes these flights. They do this for several days, then they "take over" and start handing the flight crews "scenarios" which the crew must deal with. It isn't just the pilots they are looking at, but the inflight crew, dispatch, maintenance, customer service....all departments that make up an airline.

The "diversion" to CLT was a scenario where the FAA wanted to see a diversion to a non JetBlue city. CLT was picked because of the weather and the pilots familiarity with the airport.

The company is basically "proving" to the FAA that they can operate the aircraft according to the FAR's and the scenarios prove the validity of the company policies and procedures. These scenarios help the company find the weak spots in their training policies/procedures, their operating procedures, and because it is a new aircraft, help them gain familiarity with it.

Hope that helps.

A350

Thanks man. It was joke in regards do the other popular Jetblue thread. Not a very good one, joke that is.
 

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