JB v/s SWA

[humuakalaka]

AirTran - a union CD about our up coming contract talks listed AII with lots of employees per airplane. They hired a specialist. so I assumed he might have some good info.. Let me know what you come up with? I'll look up our numbers.. Of course, we are the best!

SWA/FO, I know you saw my post on the other thread about the employees per airplane and CASM figures between LUV and AAI at the end of Q1 06.

Here more.

The SWAPA DVD was way off with regards to pilots per airplane at AAI. I know SWAPA hired a well-respected specialist. However, it is obvious the specialist got some of his numbers wrong. At the end of Q1, AAI's pilot to airplane ratio was 11.8 (check the DVD again...he wasn't even close). LUV's pilot to airplane ratio was approx 10.9 at the end of Q1. Makes me wonder what else the specialist got wrong. (I realize these aren't exact numbers but they are pretty close).

You're right, LUV is the best. However, we can't go into negotiations underestimating our competitors.

 

[DH2WN]

union CD about our up coming contract talks listed AII with lots of employees per airplane. They hired a specialist. so I assumed he might have some good info...

It begs the question of why SWAPA has to hire a specialist to divide AA's number of airplanes by the number of pilots.

Unbelievable how much money SWAPA wastes.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

It begs the question of why SWAPA has to hire a specialist to divide AA's number of airplanes by the number of pilots.

Unbelievable how much money SWAPA wastes.

Amazing we're letting you continue to steal oxygen....

 

[Bavarian Chef]

No.. I think not. A former UAL, former DAL, former AMR or former JB guy might have what it takes! Which reminds me of the question I was asked at an Air, Inc. convention. "Do you have what it takes to be a United Pilot?" I said "yeah, you guys fly airplanes, right?" They didn't like me or my answer.the SWA/FO

I guess your burgeoning airline interview prep business isn't doing that well...

 

[SWA/FO]

The SWAPA DVD was way off with regards to pilots per airplane at AAI. I know SWAPA hired a well-respected specialist. However, it is obvious the specialist got some of his numbers wrong. At the end of Q1, AAI's pilot to airplane ratio was 11.8 (check the DVD again...he wasn't even close). LUV's pilot to airplane ratio was approx 10.9 at the end of Q1. Makes me wonder what else the specialist got wrong. (I realize these aren't exact numbers but they are pretty close

I need to watch that DVD again... sounds like this guy was way off.. Anyway, that was my source. I kept asking my buddy at AirTran and he said he had no idea.

 

[Benhuntn]

60 straight qtrs of profitablilty! 1500 new pilots over next 3 yrs, with the additon of new jets each yr. SWA will be the largest domestic carrier soon.

As too pay raises and pay cuts.....I don't think there enough pilots in this company that are greedy enough to ask for raises (other than COLA) to cause SWA a problem. Most of us know how good we have it and we will work hard to this company profitable for 60 more straight qtrs.

I chose SWA as my first choice after being rejected by 12 other airlines. The best decision I ever made.

 

[SWA/FO]

I chose SWA as my first choice after being rejected by 12 other airlines. The best decision I ever made.

I didn't know there were 12 airlines out there?

 

[Benhuntn]

SWA/FO

You always seem to catch me in my lies. I am a pathological liar...no I'm not, yes I am...

P.S. I new you weren't in trouble since you are at our frozen tundra base. I would have missed your inputs. You keep them on their toes. Thanks for pointing out my stories to the others, now I have no credibility.

 

[GuppyWN]

BTW Murph........... we already are the largest "domestic" carrier by quite a large margin. In about 4 years we will also have the largest fleet in the world. We just passed UAL and the target now is AA. I don't remember where I read this but I just saw it in the past week.

Not bragging just telling.
Gup

 

[DashCojones]

How come your not making money? You not charging the right amount of money to sell your "lowest" cost product?

What are you guys smoking? Southwest anyday over JB. Paycuts are not coming. No other workforce is as productive as Southwest's. We are not managed by your management team. We will continue to kick @$$ and take names. You want to be part of that or do you want to take more of chance in an industry like this?

There's some kool-air on your chin...

 

[LeonPhelps]

Swa/fo Is Right!!

Dude, I tell people that ALL the time...yes, Barry Sanders would have broken Walter Payton's rushing record in half the time, if he was behind Emmitt Smith's line. Emmitt was great, but Barry was the most talented running back I have ever seen...he comes from the school of BYOB(Be Your Own Blocker). Remember that Cadillac commercial? Alright...enough...got a little excited about a meaningful conversation in one of these posts.

 

[zonker]

Dude, I tell people that ALL the time...yes, Barry Sanders would have broken Walter Payton's rushing record in half the time, if he was behind Emmitt Smith's line. Emmitt was great, but Barry was the most talented running back I have ever seen...he comes from the school of BYOB(Be Your Own Blocker). Remember that Cadillac commercial? Alright...enough...got a little excited about a meaningful conversation in one of these posts.

Half the time? :laugh: Yea sure.

The Cowboys Super Bowl line was comprised of 2 undrafted free agents (Mark Tuinei and Nate Newton), an LA Raiders castoff (John Gesek), an undersized center (Mark Stepnoski), and a 3rd round pick (Erik Williams). Of those, only Erik Williams was truly a great player and he was never the same after his car wreck in '94.

Larry Allen showed up in '94 and after the Cowboys won the SB in '95, the line was stripped by free agency.

Emmitt Smith made that line great, not the other way around.

Go back to swigging your Courvoisier, Leon.

 

[GoFaster]

Congrats and if you don't mind telling, how did a civilian pilot get concurrent offers from two of the three hiring major airlines?

Unbelievable. I have flown with both types, good and bad. If you think for a second the military or civilian side has a dead lock on good pilots, you need to have your head examined. The arrogance and self righteousness of pilots is the simple explanation for why we are collectively where we are today. I am finished with the soapbox...you may now continue your race to the bottom.

GoFaster

 

[Dizel8]

Swa!!

 

[mdf]

Dude, I tell people that ALL the time...yes, Barry Sanders would have broken Walter Payton's rushing record in half the time, if he was behind Emmitt Smith's line. Emmitt was great, but Barry was the most talented running back I have ever seen...he comes from the school of BYOB(Be Your Own Blocker). Remember that Cadillac commercial? Alright...enough...got a little excited about a meaningful conversation in one of these posts.

Man your crazy! Walter didn't have any line from 1975-1984. Still the best football player ever!