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http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T100104005078.htm

Looking more and more like JAL and DAL tie-up.

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Japan Airlines and a state-backed corporate turnaround body likely will decide that the struggling airline company will form a business and capital tie-up with Delta Air Lines, the world's largest airline, a move that would significantly reduce JAL's international route operations, sources said Monday.

With the move, JAL, which now belongs to the Oneworld alliance, will become part of the rival SkyTeam group. The tie-up is likely to make a certain measure of headway in solving JAL's financial woes under the supervision of the Enterprise Turnaround Initiative Corporation of Japan since cuts in international route operations are likely to be accelerated through an expansion of a code-sharing arrangement in the Asia-Pacific region, the sources said.

American Airlines, the world's second-largest carrier, which also was seeking a tie-up with JAL, has already begun the necessary procedures to end the negotiations. With the end of its close decadelong relationship with JAL, American is expected to be forced to downsize international business operations involving Japan.

Delta had already offered JAL a 1.02 billion dollars financial package with global SkyTeam alliance members, including a 500 million dollars investment and a 300 million dollars guarantee to cover any short-term drop in sales caused by JAL transferring to SkyTeam.

The U.S. airline also is set to cover costs JAL will incur when changing computer systems for the alliance transfer and to take over JAL's mileage program that enables customers to change air mile points with airline tickets.

Delta holds 32 percent of the market share of the Pacific route linking Japan and the United States, American 8 percent and JAL 22 percent.

With the expected tie-up, JAL can boost its long-term earning capacity through the abolition or rationalization of its own international route operations, while expanding the code-sharing agreement with Delta.

In December, Japan and the United States agreed to liberalize air traffic rules under a so-called open skies agreement, allowing Japanese and U.S. carriers to freely decide on the routes and numbers of flights between the countries.

Based on the open skies agreement, JAL and Delta are expected to apply to the U.S. authorities for antitrust immunity by the end of February.

Once they obtain the immunity, they will be able to enjoy benefits close to that of a merger, including profit sharing, by better coordinating the timetable and airfare rates of their transpacific operations.

American had said it was prepared to invest 1.1 billion dollars in JAL along with U.S. private-equity firm TPG Inc., but the tie-up between American and JAL, both Oneworld members, was seen as unlikely to produce benefits matching the investment, while JAL and the state-owned entity became increasingly reluctant to accept the investment by the private-equity firm.
 
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/business/T100104005078.htm

Looking more and more like JAL and DAL tie-up.

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Japan Airlines and a state-backed corporate turnaround body likely will decide that the struggling airline company will form a business and capital tie-up with Delta Air Lines, the world's largest airline, a move that would significantly reduce JAL's international route operations, sources said Monday.

With the move, JAL, which now belongs to the Oneworld alliance, will become part of the rival SkyTeam group. The tie-up is likely to make a certain measure of headway in solving JAL's financial woes under the supervision of the Enterprise Turnaround Initiative Corporation of Japan since cuts in international route operations are likely to be accelerated through an expansion of a code-sharing arrangement in the Asia-Pacific region, the sources said.

American Airlines, the world's second-largest carrier, which also was seeking a tie-up with JAL, has already begun the necessary procedures to end the negotiations. With the end of its close decadelong relationship with JAL, American is expected to be forced to downsize international business operations involving Japan.

Delta had already offered JAL a 1.02 billion dollars financial package with global SkyTeam alliance members, including a 500 million dollars investment and a 300 million dollars guarantee to cover any short-term drop in sales caused by JAL transferring to SkyTeam.

The U.S. airline also is set to cover costs JAL will incur when changing computer systems for the alliance transfer and to take over JAL's mileage program that enables customers to change air mile points with airline tickets.

Delta holds 32 percent of the market share of the Pacific route linking Japan and the United States, American 8 percent and JAL 22 percent.

With the expected tie-up, JAL can boost its long-term earning capacity through the abolition or rationalization of its own international route operations, while expanding the code-sharing agreement with Delta.

In December, Japan and the United States agreed to liberalize air traffic rules under a so-called open skies agreement, allowing Japanese and U.S. carriers to freely decide on the routes and numbers of flights between the countries.

Based on the open skies agreement, JAL and Delta are expected to apply to the U.S. authorities for antitrust immunity by the end of February.

Once they obtain the immunity, they will be able to enjoy benefits close to that of a merger, including profit sharing, by better coordinating the timetable and airfare rates of their transpacific operations.

American had said it was prepared to invest 1.1 billion dollars in JAL along with U.S. private-equity firm TPG Inc., but the tie-up between American and JAL, both Oneworld members, was seen as unlikely to produce benefits matching the investment, while JAL and the state-owned entity became increasingly reluctant to accept the investment by the private-equity firm.



The above highlighted part is interesting. I have read that JAL was thinking of shedding all of the INTL routes, and become a domestic (Japan) carrier only, until they could get their costs and debt under control. If that happened, and we became their "best" friend (along with other SkyTeam members), I bet we could expand a bit to fill in the gaps. ANA and the Star Alliance (with UAL and CAL) would be the primary competitor obviously. It will be interesting to see the final deal. Maybe we could send SKW RJs over there and ruin that market too.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Delta just paid $1B to screw with AA. That's a lot of revenue AA will have to lose to make it hurt. Delta was going to pick up the traffic anyway with JAL downsizing.

Not saying AA is the winner in this. Everyone loses, IMO.

TC
 
There are about four steps in this process for AMR and DAL. It may get real ugly. I know that DAL has planned for at least three of those steps.
 
How might this impact JALWAYS pilots?

If this investment goes forward, what is the likely impact on Jalways pilots who serve Hawaii from Japan? Would Delta likely try to provide that flying itself using A330s, etc.? Obviously it might be too early to speculate...
 
Jalways scuttled long ago.....

If this investment goes forward, what is the likely impact on Jalways pilots who serve Hawaii from Japan? Would Delta likely try to provide that flying itself using A330s, etc.? Obviously it might be too early to speculate...

Jalways 747-200 contract flying was scuttled at the beginning of the year. JAL is now all that is left and therefore any more cuts actually hurts "real" japanese pilots which is where they are at now. Delta already flys between Hawaii and Narita x 2 a day, Hawaii and Osaka daily with a combination of assets, including the a330. Inherited it from NWA.
 
Jalways 747-200 contract flying was scuttled at the beginning of the year. JAL is now all that is left and therefore any more cuts actually hurts "real" japanese pilots which is where they are at now. Delta already flys between Hawaii and Narita x 2 a day, Hawaii and Osaka daily with a combination of assets, including the a330. Inherited it from NWA.

I have a feeling if the deal goes through those Japanese pilots will mainly fly intra-Japan (domestic), and a lot of the INTL flying will go to SkyTeam members. NWA used to fly DC10s from HNL to Nagoya, Fukuoka, along with KIX and NRT (on 744s and 742s). I think we may be doing that again if it pans out, on A330s we currently have stored in the desert, and they can come out quickly I bet.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Delta just paid $1B to screw with AA. That's a lot of revenue AA will have to lose to make it hurt. Delta was going to pick up the traffic anyway with JAL downsizing.

Not saying AA is the winner in this. Everyone loses, IMO.

TC

More like closer to 2 billion just to get what UAL/CAL (will) have.

So much for trying to keep up with the Jones'
 

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