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Registered Abuser
Mar 4, 2002
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The J4J's current situation was started way back when large a/c operators realized the need for a reduced seat/operating cost feed. This feed should
come from lower density population areas. The only way to operate these a/c
economically was with lower cost crews. The regional airline evolved into the companies that they are today. Now that the regionals are operating sophisticated latest generation a/c, large jet operators realize that they can have their cake and eat it too. Take the expensive jets off of the thin/less profitable routes, and use the regional's with their lower operating cost crews
to provide market presence/service. It is unfortunate that this creates a reduced need for the bottom of their senority list-furlough. Now the scope issue, those jets can't be flown by regionals per the contract.
Solution: Get the mainline pilots to waive the scope issue, by getting them (furloughees) jobs flying those very a/c in violation of the scope.
Problem solved! "cheap planes flown by cheap pilots", no expensive pensions, crappy work rules, and the candle on the top. Regional airlines serving under a contract that is negotiated downward in price at every renewal period against every other regional participating, vs pilot contracts that are negotiated up at every negotion.
Bottom line:
Would I fly a 777 for $200.00 hr. YUP!! in a heartbeat
I have been poor for too long, paid lots of dues still not getting a good return.

The moral of this diatribe:
Mainline pilots have refused/lagged in their support of the regional pilots in their quest for reasonable wages, causing a mainline pilot to be a very expensive employee, and the regional operator a attractive possibility. :cool:


restraint order pending
Dec 23, 2001
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j4j sucks. imagine the very same pilots who thumb their noses at us, call us freight dogs and scabs, then want to work here at along side us, and displace us from the top! to hell with them, let them burn...

if USAir cant make a profit, them let them go out of business and let the ones who can take over. Southwest, jetblue, mesa, asa, etc