It's Time to Learn the FOI's...

[BoDEAN]

Just curious on how you learned the FOI.
Did you use mneumics? Did you just read front to back in the book? I scored mid 80's on my FOI written, and have a sheet with a bunch of mneumics's that I'm trying to learn, and explain. Pain in my a$$ if you ask me, but it's all beneficial in the end...

 

[bobbysamd]

FOI

How's this for a different idea? How about simply reading the Aviation Instructor's Handbook and just learning the FOI?

Too many people give the FOI short shrift, including myself at one point. I began training new CFIs and reread the FOI so I could help them. I also listened as they presented their FOI lectures. I soon found that the principles taught in the FOI actually work. It's not a bunch of drivel to cram to get past your CFI practical. The FOI is really what aviation instructing is all about, precepts to live by.

Yes, it is beneficial at the end, as long as you apply yourself and really learn the material.

Good luck with your CFI.

 

[172driver]

Good post Bobby. I completely agree that FOI is valuable. However, some examiners can't seem to evaluate the applicants' knowledge of FOI without asking them to regurgitate those acronyms. Poor technique if you ask me. I am much more interested in whether or not the CFI applicant understands or can apply the FOI. Perfect example in this post...RUAC.

Rote = what the examiner wants
Understanding = better
Application = can they apply it to a given scenario in the exam?
Correlation = can they spot it in the student and fix it?

Now, is it more valuable for me to be able to type RUAC, or to be able to use these principles to help my students succeed? So, gizbug, learn the mnemonics to get by the oral and follow Bobby's advice to become a successful CFI. Good luck and study hard.

 

[Kaman]

Hello,
Agree 100% with Bobby. Everyone told me that the FOI stuffe was a bunch of BS, and just memorize the stuff, take the test and it's useless afterwards. Not true, the laws of learning; primacy, recency, intensity, exercise, effect and readiness are all very aapplicable. Take the law of primacy; what is first learned is often the first thing remembered. Now, if a pilot was taught something incorrectly the first time or established bad habits it's difficult to unlearn and even more difficult to unteach.
I was trained by the military as a task-based instructor and many of the things I learned in IT (Instructor Training) were very similar to the FOI. The newer version of the Aviaiton Instructor Handbook is a very helpful tool, and in particular the section on Aviation Decision Making. I think this is something that is going to get more and more emphasis by DPEs in the future. It's airline and military variety(CRM, LOFT, ACT, etc...) has proven very succesful and saved lives and airframes.

Regards,

ex-Navy rotorhead

 

[midlifeflyer]

Sorry, BoDEAN. I wasn't going to repeat myself here, but with 172Driver's mention of RUAC, I couldn't resist. It is my favorite CFI mnemonic.

learn principles by Rote so you can avoid Understanding, Applying or Correlating them in any way.

I agree with BobbySamD (BTW, are you in Denver or is the Broncos logo for some other reason?)

 

[BoDEAN]

Thanks for the pointers.
I guess what I am saying is, there is just A LOT OF INFO to remember in that small FOI book!

Right now, I printed out the GLEIM outlines provided by their Test Prep cdrom. I am sitting down with that, and my FOI book, and reading through each chapter of the outline, and makingnotes in the column. I guess they highlight the key points of the FOI, and I guess that is a good place to start.

 

[bobbysamd]

RUAC and REEPIR

Sorry, BoDEAN. I wasn't going to repeat myself here, but with 172Driver's mention of RUAC, I couldn't resist. It is my favorite CFI mnemonic.

learn principles by Rote so you can avoid Understanding, Applying or Correlating them in any way.

I agree with BobbySamD (BTW, are you in Denver or is the Broncos logo for some other reason?)

I guess that's one of the universal FOI mnemonics. Also, REEPIR, to remember the laws of learning. Something like:

Readiness (number 1, in my $0.02 - know it!)
Effect (learning being better if pleasurable)
Exercise (repetition and practice - 3 reps max per flight)
Primacy (number 1A - learn it right the first time - soo true!)
Intensity (e.g. an intense learning experience being better remembered, e.g., using a visual aid instead of just a verbal description)
Recency (last thing learned - first thing remembered)

Another good one is Maslow's Pyramid of Needs, which is in the next chapter (you might know it as Hierarchy of Needs from Psych 101). Characteristics of a good test and instructor professionalism, which are several chapters later. Visual aids. There may be something about classroom lecturing and the various kinds of questions, e.g. relay, overhead, oversize, etc. Lesson plans!!!

FYI, I heard that retired AF colonels who went to work for the FAA authored the FOI, which would account for the similarity to Kaman's Navy instructor training.

Yes, I am in Denver and a 40-year Bronco fan, delighted to see Oakland lose the way they did on Sunday.

PS-I edited REEPIR after looking it up in my FOI. I'm getting the benefit again after having to research it!

 

[Northern Lights]

D.I.R.

The theories of forgetting

Disuse
Interference
Repression.

Those are from the "old" FOI. The new on has a few more, but I have forgotten

P.E.M.A.

Learing is purpousful, comes though experience, is multifacited, and is an active process

 

[BoDEAN]

Thanks. My list is now full!
I am making my way through the FOI book, it's not as bad as I thought, just a lot of information. Going to try for a mock oral before my CFI checkride only on the FOI material, to see what else I need to know. BTW - My FOI knowledge test score was a 96%. Hopefully that plays some factor on how hard the FOI's are thrown at me in the oral

 

[Chas]

passed foi last week

i just read Gleim anmd kept taking the practice test then took the test got an 89 . Just Do iT!!

 

[BoDEAN]

Re: passed foi last week

i just read Gleim anmd kept taking the practice test then took the test got an 89 . Just Do iT!!

96...Did it


Thanks

 

[starvingcfi]

congrats dude