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Hey at least she didnt take innocent civilians, burn them and hang them by a bridge.

At least she didnt take an innocent civilian and cut his head off and then post the video on her website.

Those Iraqi "victims" she "embarrassed" were the same people out killing my military friends in Iraq.

Talk about out of whack feelings in this country. She was a PFC in the Army reserves. I say again, a freakin PFC. She didnt kill anyone, so give it a rest. The investigation was underway back in Jan. There are a lot worst things going on in the world, especially the Arab world.

Jimney Crickets!
 
Checks

It is all the liberals have. So they are going to hang on to this one as long as they can drag it out. Not much news out there on the beheading, but we are still highly focused an prisoner abuse. Go figure!:eek:
 
Checks

"At least she didn't......."
"At least............ad infinitem.

What's all this "at least" stuff?

I didn't realize it was a contest to see who has the worst s.o.b's

And Tim, where have you had your head buried? No news about Mr. Bergs decapitaion? Wow, you must be watching the Home Shopping Network. You are very selective in the way you mangae your "spin". That's all I seem to see on the news is the story on Mr. Berg, and the video, and now how the family says the administration is to blame for their son's beheading. No news about it though, Right?

It's ALL bad, from ALL sides. "At least" please recognize that.
Your own head of the DoD, Mr.Rumsfeld, has said the abusive things done in Abu Ghriab were awful, and it rightfully repulsed all Americans. Or, do you think Rumsfeld just "said those things" to get GWB re-elected? You know, like you accuse all those awful "libruls" of doing? Just curious as to how you find the ways to spin that since they do bad stuff, any and everything our people do is "good stuff".
 
This headline from the Minneapolis StarTribune today.

Guess all these "detainee's" must have been found to have been locked up for "crimes" that did not merit holding them. But, it's ok that they were set upon by dogs and "truth squads" Three hundered a so each week getting out for a while now. I wonder how many who were not terrorists, will now join their ranks?

Article headline:

American troops release 300 from Abu Ghraib prison

Nearly 300 Iraqi detainees, some weeping and waving to friends, were released from the Abu Ghraib prison today, a day after Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made a surprise visit and insisted the Pentagon did not try to cover up abuses there.
 
My two cents: firing Donald Rumsfeld for what Lynndie England (et al) did would be like firing Marion Blakey because some airline pilot got drunk and made a scene at a hotel.

(For those of you who don't know, Ms. Blakely is the current FAA Administrator.)

I don't get the sense there was some sort of conspiracy here. I think it was a case of a few soldiers who decided "Hey, they're not human beings, they're rag-heads. Let's go f--k with them some more." I do suspect that the interrogators these soldiers came in contact with may have fueled that sort of thinking.

But fire Rumsfeld? Nah, I don't see how that will solve anything.

(On the other hand, whatever gets rid of W is fine with me...)
 
Typhoon1244

I think I'm in agreement with you on this. I believe Rumsfeld is a good and decent man, and has a sharp mind. I do think there were some failures in planning earlier, that makes a bad situation worse, and part of that accountability does belong to Rumsfeld. But, in fairness, he has to march to the orders of his boss, GWB. And that boss of his is the one who got us into this "QUAGMIRE".

No, Rummy' is not responsible for the actual abuse at the prison, but as usually happens in politics, if he does resign, it's because he falls on his own sword to keep the boss from taking the hit, the guy that sets the 'tone' for it all.
 
Dear Mr. Jarhead,

I have this feeling you were in the Naval JROTC in high school back in '78 and have been telling people the last 10yrs you were a Marine in Vietnam.

How close am I?

You dont sound like any Marine I have ever meet!
 
Checks said:
You dont sound like any Marine I have ever meet!

I absolutely love it! If you're not a war-mongering, kill-happy bigot, it's impossible to have been a Marine!

All forbid that we should have people that have served their country AND have a desire for peace and rule of law...
 
Mr. Checks
Look at my detailed profile. Use the icon at the bottom if you have never used it. You will see that my date of birth is July of 1940. I will be 64 this coming July. I was never in NROTC ever, anywhere. I was enlisted in the Marine Corps in November of 1958. Left at a Rank of E-4. In 1978, the year you suggest I was in ROTC, I was 38 years old, Married, house in the burbs, and a 7 year old son.

The 7 year old son then, is now 32, and a captain at Comair for the last 7 years.

Sorry your detective work was so far off the mark. Wanna ask me some quiz questions?

I am so very puzzled why so many on these boards question who I am, simply based on their disagreement with my political views. There are more Marines than just me, who question the current leadership in our country. But, if it makes you feel better to support your own view, by attacking the character of someone who has a different message than yourself, rather than attack the message, I guess I cannot help you out of that blind spot.

By the way, I see your birthday is tomorrow. You are one year older than my son. Happy birthday!
 
Dear Mr. JarHead,

My previous post was uncalled for and out of line.

I just feel this whole prisoner abuse scandal, notice I didnt say atrocity, is being taken out of context. People are brutally killing innocent civilians delivering water yet all I hear, and see, are stories of naked prisoners. No one killed, no one mutilated, and an investigation already started 5 months ago. Just makes you wonder why it is such a huge news story.

I need to get back to Earning Money Sleeping.
 

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