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avbug said:
What's a flip?

Lots of kids flying for regionals. It's an entry level job.

This girl told me her roommate took her up in a cessna and did a loop/flip..And he is 22 and flys for American eagle. Seems like a crock of BS. A 22 year old flying for American eagle? Seems extremely young but I guess possible. But flipping a cessna??
 
Young? A whole lot of us started flying much younger. I began flying for pay when I was eighteen on a fresh commercial certificate. A lot of others have, too.

It was only a short time ago when people were hiring into regional seats with barely enough experience to recognize an airplane two out of three times. That someone might be with a regional at age twenty two is very do-able.

Just about any aircraft can be looped and rolled.
 
LewisU_Pilot said:
This girl told me her roommate took her up in a cessna and did a loop/flip..And he is 22 and flys for American eagle. Seems like a crock of BS. A 22 year old flying for American eagle? Seems extremely young but I guess possible. But flipping a cessna??
If "flip"=roll, then yes.

*If 22 year old's dad is a captain for AA and purchased him an Apache when he was 18, then yes, very do-able.

*happened to my first instructor
 
You don't have to have a rich Dad guys.A kid at my airport is 18/19 and has 400 hr and a CFI.He works real hard with a goal in mind.
 
Wish my daddy had paid for my flying. Otherwise I could have been in the right seat at 22 instead of 23 like I did for my first airline job. 22 and flying for Eagle. It happens all the time without "Daddy's Help"
 
LewisU_Pilot said:
This girl told me her roommate took her up in a cessna and did a loop/flip..And he is 22 and flys for American eagle. Seems like a crock of BS. A 22 year old flying for American eagle? Seems extremely young but I guess possible. But flipping a cessna??
Aren't some 150/152's capable of that? I used to instruct years ago in a 150 "aerobat". It had special harnesses, and a G load meter on it. I never "flipped" it however.
 
LewisU_Pilot said:
A 22 year old flying for american eagle?

Doing a "flip" in a cessna?
I was hired at Eagle at 21. Guess I'm full of it too.

And NO ONE paid for ANY of my flying. I haven't paid for one minute of flight time since I got my CFI...in case any of you were arming the flame throwers. No I didn't know anyone there, so no internal recommendation, and no internship. Just applied off the street and got hired.
 
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Not so much anymore! With the majors not hiring, many are staying put. I am on the fence about staying or going to a big freight operation. Uhmmm 19 days off an month and warbird flying...sitting in a crashpad and getting a call at 0430...uhmmmmm??

By the way, had a 19 year old in my "entry level job" ground school in 2000. He could not upgrade until he turned 23!! And he could have at 20!

avbug said:
What's a flip?

Lots of kids flying for regionals. It's an entry level job.
 
I was hired at my first airline less than a month after my 22nd birthday. Then hired at my second airline soon after my 23rd birthday. There are plenty of young pilots at the regionals.
 
A good many young folks (21,22,23) who can afford the poverty wages that still live with mommy and daddy can be seen at many of the regionals all across the board. A little easier when you are young, single, live at home, no kids or family to support making the whopping $20K a year, so yes it is not only "possible" but it is a reality.

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There sure were a lot of airplanes flipped after the run of hurricanes this year. I personally couldn't do it, but I'm not as strong as I used to be. Not as fast either. And slightly balding too. At 22 years old though...not a problem. (I might have needed a block and tackle, in all fairness).


Er blech ah clobb strujh igh vyurt.

-Stephen Hawking
I don't know why, but that was really funny.
 
No college degree

I bet they got hired without a 4 year degree. They wanted to fly so they went out and flew airplanes.
 
Since the comment was made about the 4-year degree----Here's a question for you. I had 2 years of college when I joined the military. I couldn't finish my 4-year degree due to constant deployments. Now, I can't afford to go back to school and do it-plus my work schedule won't allow it. I have over 4,000 hours total time and currently fly Lears. How do you think the airlines would look at my not having a degree?
 
EatSleepFly said:
I was hired at Eagle at 21. Guess I'm full of it too.

And NO ONE paid for ANY of my flying. I haven't paid for one minute of flight time since I got my CFI...in case any of you were arming the flame throwers. No I didn't know anyone there, so no internal recommendation, and no internship. Just applied off the street and got hired.

But, and a big But, YOU recently resigned from Eagle vs being fired for proficiency reasons!
 
I was hired at my first regional at 23 with a 4 year degree. I had 1500 hours, that's still competitive I think.
 
Dr. Poke,


The degree isn't nearly the discriminating factor it was not long ago; your bigger competition right now will be furloughed pilots or displaced pilots who have type ratings in the aircraft you're seeking, or heavy time you don't. Your currency is a big plus, especially if it's being conducted under Part 135.

You always have the option today of completing your degree by distance learning over the internet with local testing. It's a widely accepted, fully accredited way of obtaining a legitimate degree. It allows you to continue working and still net the credentials you might like to have.
 
Rhoid said:
But, and a big But, YOU recently resigned from Eagle vs being fired for proficiency reasons!
Uh, nice try but no. It had nothing to do with proficiency. Yeah, I had a f*cked up sim session because the instructor was an a-hole, big deal. I resigned because I didn't want to commute 4,000 miles for less money than I was making as a flight instructor. The regionals are a joke, big deal. To each his own. T'was the best thing that coulda happened to me.

Happy New Year.
 
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We have a guy who did his type ride in the CRJ about a week after his 23rd b-day. I think he was hired when he was 20.
 
I knew of an F/O at my last job (a regional) who got hired at age 21. They warned him in the interview that he'd be "stuck" in the right seat until he was 23. He took the job and was truly a competent, skilled pilot.

Age isn't necessarily the big issue (excepting ATP requirements), it's maturity, judgement and skill that matter in aviation.
 
Maybe she was the one that got flipped? I have flown with a few early twenty something pilots. Not that uncommon at the airlines.

We use to "flip" the cherokees whenever we thought no one was looking!
 
How are the regionals a joke? Because you did not like it...or it did not like you?

EatSleepFly said:
Uh, nice try but no. It had nothing to do with proficiency. Yeah, I had a f*cked up sim session because the instructor was an a-hole, big deal. I resigned because I didn't want to commute 4,000 miles for less money than I was making as a flight instructor. The regionals are a joke, big deal. To each his own. T'was the best thing that coulda happened to me.

Happy New Year.
 
I did not like it. No offense to the regional pilots at all, that lifestyle just isn't for me. I'd rather work at home depot.
 

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