Irony is ...

[Dooker]

Irony is burning 11,000 lbs. to fly a family of four from their vacation home on the islands, then watching them get off the plane on the mainland and climb into a Toyota Prius.

I wish I was kidding, but I'm not.

 

[skiandsurf]

Irony is burning 11,000 lbs. to fly a family of four from their vacation home on the islands, then watching them get off the plane on the mainland and climb into a Toyota Prius.

I wish I was kidding, but I'm not.

I have seen this as well. Seems like this is more of the Hollywood types, whereas the regular rich guy drives either a Suburban or Range Rover. The business guy will drive the Mercedes.

 

[Dooker]

I have seen this as well. Seems like this is more of the Hollywood types, whereas the regular rich guy drives either a Suburban or Range Rover. The business guy will drive the Mercedes.

Actually, they did look sort of Granola-ly and hairy. And they were from California, though not Hollywood.

It's just funny. They burned about as much gas in this one trip as the average family does in three or four years of driving to work and to soccer games and the store. To think that driving a hybrid will do anything to reduce their carbon footprint ... good luck!

 

[208starcheck]

I also saw this 2 days ago at VNY.

 

[learflyer]

it's like eating 4 cheeseburgers while having an angioplasty.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Irony is burning 11,000 lbs. to fly a family of four from their vacation home on the islands, then watching them get off the plane on the mainland and climb into a Toyota Prius.

I wish I was kidding, but I'm not.

Had a movie producer going from TEB into SMO for the Oscars last year do the same thing. At least he has a sense of humor about it and actually made a joke about trying to make up for burning so much Jet-A.

 

[Wankel7]

LOL, but I am sure they saved a ton on their car insurance

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Maybe they purchased a sh*tload of carbon offsets...

 

[blueskies8]

Some things just make you scratch your head and walk away with a smile on your face. I flew a family of four into TEB this summer for the Al Gore's Live Earth concert. On top of that they were about a half hour late and wanted us to go as fast as we could, so we did. That was irony and both the FO and I were chuckling for the rest of the 6 day tour.

 

[GooseHZ]

funny

Ol AL Gore charters a GII.....now thats a fuel saver if i have ever seen one.....

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Super-size it...oh yeah and ahhh make it a diet Coke.

 

[doh]

As long as they keep flying! I need the job!:beer:

 

[blueskies8]

As long as they keep flying! I need the job!:beer:

Amen brother! I don't care why they fly as long as they still fly. Though it still makes me scratch my head sometimes.

 

[NJAowner]

Every little bit helps -- and none of us is perfect. I think the big issue is do the people just do it or do they preach to you about how "efficient" they are and tell you what you should do.

We try to be efficient, have just installed some solar panels which provide 1/3 of the electricity for our home. Not looking for any praise, but figure I can do my part in my way and don't tell any one else what "they should do".

What is ironic is the ones who judge you or preach to be more energy efficient and then are not.

Fly safe.

P.S. - I will be purchasing the carbon offsets NJ is now offering. Every little bit helps. No --- I am not an idealist and will not give up my private flights, but will try to minimize their impact.

 

[skiandsurf]

P.S. - I will be purchasing the carbon offsets NJ is now offering. Every little bit helps. No --- I am not an idealist and will not give up my private flights, but will try to minimize their impact.

Something I would like to see at NJs, anytime we have a 1-2 hour slide, we shut the plane down until the pax calls inrange (15 minutes out).

 

[NJAowner]

That is a great idea. As a matter of course, I usually call the FBO and ask them to update the pilots with my show information. This way, if I am at the end of my slide (or later), you can safely finish lunch, etc. I wouldn't like to be sitting "on call" for 1 1/2 hours if the passenger knows he is going to be late. I have gotten many "thank yous" for this call. I jjust did it out of courtesy, but like the energy efficiency issue too (which would also mean lower costs).

 

[CA1900]

That is a great idea. As a matter of course, I usually call the FBO and ask them to update the pilots with my show information.

We appreciate that greatly. I've flown a gentleman out of Florida several times who consistently does that, and it works well for all of us. We can be there and ready for him, and "primed" to roll as soon as he gets here.

Without any specific arrival time, I may be leaving the APU running for hours, which wastes fuel, and wears that expensive APU unnecessarily. (The Excel APU burns about 17 gallons an hour with the electrical and air going, for example.)

 

[gutshotdraw]

The coolest thing about "the guy with the accent" getting elected is that now his security escort always tells us when he's 15 out. No more worrying about the noise police at SMO watching the clock while you're on the standard two hour slide....

 

[gunfyter]

OK but all this fuel saving is killing me... My Valero Energy stock is down about 20% in last 2 weeks.

 

[fischman]

That is a great idea. As a matter of course, I usually call the FBO and ask them to update the pilots with my show information. This way, if I am at the end of my slide (or later), you can safely finish lunch, etc. I wouldn't like to be sitting "on call" for 1 1/2 hours if the passenger knows he is going to be late. I have gotten many "thank yous" for this call. I jjust did it out of courtesy, but like the energy efficiency issue too (which would also mean lower costs).

This is more useful than you may realize, and greatly appreciated.

 

[Ultra Grump]

It'd be nice if Owner Services would give the owners our Blackberry # so they could call and let us know they are on their way.

 

[netjetwife]

Every little bit helps ....

My thought as well. I'm one of those who cuts back where I can. I put artificial sweetner in my tea but I like chicken fried steak. Isn't life about balancing things?

I'm also interested in a hybrid vehicle, but my husband is a pilot. Some would say that's ironic, but I, too, think we can all help in several easy ways. I shop for Energy Star products and chose a trash collection company that offers recycle pick up service, as well. Surprisingly most didn't include it.

S&S, I agree w/you. I think NJ should explain the energy issue to those owners who haven't thought about it and seek their cooperation.

UG, that does sound like something an Owner Services Rep should do. At least pass the # on and give the pax the option of calling ahead.

 

[blueskies8]

It'd be nice if Owner Services would give the owners our Blackberry # so they could call and let us know they are on their way.

This is what my company does and the clients call in range most of the time. It is definitely appreciated and works great, especially with delays. I imagine it would be more difficult to implement on such a scale that NJ's operates.

 

[NJAowner]

It'd be nice if Owner Services would give the owners our Blackberry # so they could call and let us know they are on their way.

I must disagree with you on your behalf. We get the FBO phone number on our emails and trip itinerary. That doesn't change (usually). The pilots may change. How many times will your phone ring or how many voice mail messages will you have from the passenger that was going to be on your 11:00 flight but which got changed to another tail. He couldn't find the new pilot's number so he calls you. Ot just dials a wrong number later on. Trust me -- do you want to braodcast your cell phone number to 14-20 passengers on every 7 day trip?? I fly 80-90% of my trips out of the same 6-7 FBOs. Those are all the numbers an owner needs.

Fly safe.

 

[Ultra Grump]

The reason I say that is for the instances when, for example, we have a 2-hour slide. Halfway through the slide, we get an update with a new slide starting then. And then the owner proceeds to show up an hour and a half after the adjusted slide. That's essentially 4.5 hours we're sitting there not sure if the owner is coming through the door in the next 5 minutes. Or conversely, we have a 9am show, 10am go, and the owner shows up at 9:15 ready to go. Very few owners are as considerate as you, NJAowner.

 

[fischman]

I would personally LOVE a 15 minute call.

However, WE are supposed to be at the owner's disposal, not vice versa. The people who fly on us are spending some bucks to fly on us. I say if they show up early, great. Make sure they are comfortable and give them a time you think you are going to be ready. If they are late, so what? We operate on the owner's schedule.

 

[*#$% Headwinds]

It'd be nice if Owner Services would give the owners our Blackberry # so they could call and let us know they are on their way.

I must disagree with you on your behalf. We get the FBO phone number on our emails and trip itinerary. That doesn't change (usually). The pilots may change. How many times will your phone ring or how many voice mail messages will you have from the passenger that was going to be on your 11:00 flight but which got changed to another tail. He couldn't find the new pilot's number so he calls you. Ot just dials a wrong number later on. Trust me -- do you want to braodcast your cell phone number to 14-20 passengers on every 7 day trip?? I fly 80-90% of my trips out of the same 6-7 FBOs. Those are all the numbers an owner needs.

Fly safe.

I really like this guy. Thinks more like a pilot than an owner.

 

[gunfyter]

I really like this guy. Thinks more like a pilot than an owner.

If he keeps that up he'll be broke soon ...like most of us....

 

[NJAowner]

No -- I just try to be considerate of the time of others. I get very irritated if I am suppossed to have a 10 a.m. meeting and everyone shows up at 10:30 without a call. Or if they say "I'll be at your office between 11-12" I am ready before 11 and won't start a call, etc., which I know will run 30 minutes. IIf I know at 11 you won't be there until 12, I can be productive.

I'm not perfect, and may be late without a call, but many times it is just 15 seconds and I know you can enjoy lunch for an hour instead of inhaling it.

Fly safe.