Insurance Companies SUCK @$$

[Jmmccutc]

i'm getting sick of how much control insurance companies have over aviation...i spent this past week trying to find summer work flying jumpers in a 182...you gotta have 500tt to fly a freakin 182...i don't know maybe i'm just missing something here, but how are you supposed to "build time" if you can't even qualify for a realitively simple job?...

...sorry just venting...

 

[Chest Rockwell]

Supply and demand.

 

[avbug]

500 hours isn't very much to ask. Think about it. You need that much for a bare bones VFR job.

Rather than thinking in terms of "building hours," think in terms of building or gaining experience. Same hours, different focus.

If all you want is the time then write it in your logbook and be done with it.

A lot of DZ's don't have insurance on the aircraft. I don't know if USPA has set any requirements lately, but I'm not aware of any.

Are you not a flight instructor?

 

[Jmmccutc]

If all you want is the time then write it in your logbook and be done with it.

Avbug, of all people i never expected that from you... ...yeah i see your point...it's a good deal, the experience, not the time, but as you know you need the "time" to get somewhere in aviation...i met a guy once that kind of got in an argument, if you wanna call it that, who jumped in his cherokee 6 dialed up his GPS and auto pilot and flew VFR all over...XC type flying...had a private ~1000tt, he said he avoids all controll facilities (don't like to talk to ATC) and never had an "encounter" as i like to call it, like never flew in even marginal weather according to him...

i told my instructor about that at the time, and she posed the argument to me...who has more "experience"? that guy...who said he can't fly with out his GPS or he'd get lost...or a hypothetical person with half that time, does alot of approaches, may have had an emergency (nothing too severe) that was handled, someone even who say got lost on a cross country in private way back when...all these situations she explained to me are a learning experince...

i don't know i guess my problem is that i don't have the money to rent a plane and get to that 500 hr requirement, and i'm sure that there are alot of other people out there just like me...

Are you not a flight instructor?

no not yet, but soon i hope...

 

[lowslow]

500 hours is not a lot to ask in the scheme of things.


You can also lay blame on our tort laws, and the law dogs that laid the path to huge claims. Those claims get paid by the insurance companys.

The rates go up every year, and unfortunatly, they are in the drivers seat.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Most of the 182 fleet has nose damage due to low time guys coming out of 172's and landing the thing on the nose damaging everything firewall forward. The 182 is nose heavy and not forgiving up front. Very expensive. Think about it from a business point of view.

 

[FN FAL]

i'm getting sick of how much control insurance companies have over aviation...i spent this past week trying to find summer work flying jumpers in a 182...you gotta have 500tt to fly a freakin 182...i don't know maybe i'm just missing something here, but how are you supposed to "build time" if you can't even qualify for a realitively simple job?...

...sorry just venting...

Hey, Jmmccutc! Look up United States Parachute Association on www.google.com

When you find the website...click on "member dropzones" or "dropzones" or whatever it has there. I know that up in Shiocton WI at the Wolf River Skydivers, they don't have insurance on the planes...so they don't hold to the 500 hour thing. At least they didn't in the past. You might also try Omro WI, and East Troy WI (Skyknights). I got my start flying jumpers with 250 hours...good luck to you.

 

[Jmmccutc]

Most of the 182 fleet has nose damage due to low time guys coming out of 172's and landing the thing on the nose damaging everything firewall forward. The 182 is nose heavy and not forgiving up front. Very expensive. Think about it from a business point of view.

yeah i got a decent ammount time in a 182, and yes i know this, i remember the first few landings...wow...they were hard...

 

[WizardPilot]

I started lessons and learned in a 182. I flew a 172 the other day and it was like a feather. Not too bad. Fun flying though.