Instrument Approach Deviation

[100LL... Again!]

Could someone post the reference in the FARs where it requires a missed approach if you go full scale on the approach?

 

[User546]

Could someone post the reference in the FARs where it requires a missed approach if you go full scale on the approach?

Yea, I'd be curious to see that too. I think you'll find it under "Common Sense."

Thanks.

 

[HMR]

Could someone post the reference in the FARs where it requires a missed approach if you go full scale on the approach?

Or how about a reference that says you can't stick your head in a spinning prop?

 

[Icelandair]

Or how about a reference that says you can't stick your head in a spinning prop?

Prohibition against careless or reckless operation

 

[cforst513]

i can't wait until i am a pilot and understand fully what you guys are talking about! Also, what are TERPS and PTS?

 

[Wang Chung]

You're right. I had a custom made HSI put in our plane that has an extra dot on each side (12 degrees instead of 10). We go missed 10% less than before.

The same company that makes the Mark-12 HSI makes custom RMIs, too. They are divided into 300 degrees instead of 360 degrees around the face. Makes it much easier to maintain PTS standards and stay within limits during an NDB approach. Well worth the $$, IMHO.

 

[Tinstaafl]

I prefer the company's custom RMI model that's graduated in 'mils' instead of degrees. Once you get the hang of using 1280 x 5 mil markings around a standard 3" gauge circumference, the increased accuracy gives you the option to use precision approach minima for any NDB approach...

 

[100LL... Again!]

Yea, I'd be curious to see that too. I think you'll find it under "Common Sense."

Thanks.

If you're so smart, then just go ahead and post the FAR reference, please.

It was a simple enough question.

You new kids are all spit and vinegar, but you fall short when it comes to delivering the goods.

Mr. 1500 hours. Call me back when you're a real pilot.

 

[minitour]

If you're so smart, then just go ahead and post the FAR reference, please.

It was a simple enough question.

You new kids are all spit and vinegar, but you fall short when it comes to delivering the goods.

Mr. 1500 hours. Call me back when you're a real pilot.

91.175 says:
(e) Missed approach procedures. Each pilot operating an aircraft, except a military aircraft of the United States, shall immediately execute an appropriate missed approach procedure when either of the following conditions exist:

(1) Whenever operating an aircraft pursuant to paragraph (c) or (l) of this section and the requirements of that paragraph are not met at either of the following times:

(i) When the aircraft is being operated below MDA; or

(ii) Upon arrival at the missed approach point, including a DH where a DH is specified and its use is required, and at any time after that until touchdown.

(2) Whenever an identifiable part of the airport is not distinctly visible to the pilot during a circling maneuver at or above MDA, unless the inability to see an identifiable part of the airport results only from a normal bank of the aircraft during the circling approach.

While it doesn't specifically say that you must go missed with full deflection, I'd argue that you're not in a position to (bla bla bla)...if you have full deflection.

Couldn't find anything under Part 97, but the AIM does have this to say:

5-5-5. Missed Approach
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a. Pilot.
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1. Executes a missed approach when one of the following conditions exist:
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(a) Arrival at the Missed Approach Point (MAP) or the Decision Height (DH) and visual reference to the runway environment is insufficient to complete the landing.
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(b) Determines that a safe approach or landing is not possible (see subparagraph 5-4-20g).
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(c) Instructed to do so by ATC.
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I'd again argue that you can't assure a safe approach or landing if you aren't on the approach segment pertinent to that portion of flight (Initial, Final, etc).

I know that really doesn't say it specifically, but that's how I'd interpret it.

Your mileage may vary...

100LL...what in the world are you doing out of the "Non Aviation" forum???

*stomps on the floor* "HEY MOM...GETTIN COLD DOWN THERE?"

-mini

 

[mattpilot]

thats odd....

my school (spartan) teaches that you must go missed at 3/4's deflection and that the DPE's fail you if you don't.

I'm curious too if there is some regulation pertaining to this.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Thanks.

That was my whole point - that it is a matter only of safety and good sense, not an actual FAR reference, as is so often assumed
And I like to slip out of the politics and religion (when I can sneak away from the nurse) and wreak some havoc on the other forums.

 

[100LL... Again!]

PTS and FAR are different issues.

 

[minitour]

Thanks.

That was my whole point - that it is a matter only of safety and good sense, not an actual FAR reference, as is so often assumed
And I like to slip out of the politics and religion (when I can sneak away from the nurse) and wreak some havoc on the other forums.

hahah...good to see you out here...

Every once in a while I do something "non aviation" related. There was this girl once who...........

-mini