Inhofe offers two amendments to faa reauthorization

[pilotyip]

So...

With regards to air commerce, the moving of air freight, whether for AMC, the Chinese, the Arabs or otherwise falls in this area. It is macro economically dependent, but not in and of itself a factor of the business cycle; rather it's driven by it. Moving Business travelers (the only profitable segment of airline travel) is also dependent on the business cycle and not a factor in the demand curve (to the chagrin of all those on-line business meeting companies). So, the only segment that could be argued to be "Elastic" is personal/vacation or recreational travel... and thanks to Priceline.com, Travelocity, et al, that's been the bane of every non-rev airline employee and for all I care .. good riddance!

In the end, pilot labor is insignificant as a cost, compared to the capital costs and fuel costs of running an airline... however, what managers love is that labor costs are flexible (thus why we have unions)... but when you drive a regulatory wedge into the mix... that flexibility is reduced in favor of labor.. squeezing the manager's profits, and their bonus.

I was thinking pax, with big cargo probably less elastic

 

[tailwindz]

txpilottj,

Here's the thing. IF we don't get it now, we never will in our careers.

It will be much easier to go back after the fact and relax the rules, IF WE need too.

Bottom line, too much is much better than NOTHING.

 

[txpilottj]

txpilottj,

Here's the thing. IF we don't get it now, we never will in our careers.

It will be much easier to go back after the fact and relax the rules, IF WE need too.

Bottom line, too much is much better than NOTHING.

And here is where we greatly disagree....too much is NOT better than nothing, because once we get stuck with this...it won't change in our careers. You're right...this is the only shot we get to get it right and so far, we're not doing too well....

We will have to agree to disagree this time bro.....fly safe.

 

[dontpost2]

Here we go again

Sorry friends to have to get this debate going again, but just got the fastread:

(March 21, 2011) Despite years of hard work and a congressional mandate to update federal pilot fatigue rules, there are those who are attempting to derail the pending flight- and duty-time rule through legislative carve-outs. When the U.S. House of Representatives considers the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Reauthorization bill (H.R. 658) next week, a proposed amendment is expected to exempt some all-cargo and charter air carriers from the FT/DT rule. The amendment would permit subpart-S carriers to operate under a separate set of fatigue rules. All ALPA pilots are urged to participate in our nationwide Call to Action to send a strong message to Capitol Hill that any exemptions from the pilot fatigue rule are unacceptable. Take action now! Send a message to your U.S. representative.

 

[HA25]

Seriously? when will these idiots quit?

 

[Front Office]

I may of missed something. I just read HR 658 and it dosnt say anything about subpart-S carriers to operate under a separate set of fatigue rules. Maybe I missed something??

 

[HA25]

I may of missed something. I just read HR 658 and it dosnt say anything about subpart-S carriers to operate under a separate set of fatigue rules. Maybe I missed something??

some republican probably will try and staple an amendment to it when it goes into vote.

 

[pilotyip]

as they say it ain't over till its over.

 

[inline]

some republican probably will try and staple an amendment to it when it goes into vote.

" Some republican" It's all their fault. Got it.

 

[HA25]

" Some republican" It's all their fault. Got it.

Hey, I like my guns and hate abortion too, but find me a case where a Democrat went against ALPA, rest rules or anything that was going to cost the companies any money in the past 50 years?