Inappropriate Flight Attendant

[Metro752]

Yep, I say they sh1t can her. All you have to do is remember which soldiers were on the plane, and they'll back ya up.

Stupid woman doesn't understand how bad she was. She probably did the same thing during Vietnam.

I say get her for her stupidity.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Oh boy! I would have had FUN on this flight!

 

[Fury220]

Oh boy! I would have had FUN on this flight!

No SH!T, man. Uncle Sam usually has me fly for TDYs in civvies, so I would have felt MORE THAN WELCOME expressing my opinion of that flight attendant. It wouldn't have taken more than a simple sarcastic remark, but it would have been well worth it.

I don't care what your hippie liberal kiddie beliefs are about the "unjust war" and how we're not doing any good over there (a lie). Shut your f*cking yap about your opinions out of simple f*cking RESPECT around the men/women who offered their lives so left-wing idiots have the freedom to whine and complain about us handling a conflict like men. I have seriously started to have a sneaky suspicion that the whole "no war no matter what" movement is just an expression of the liberal "inner pusssy" -- people lacking the moral fiber to stand up for what they believe with something more than a word or a pen.

 

[qmaster3]

Stupid woman doesn't understand how bad she was. She probably did the same thing during Vietnam.

I say get her for her stupidity.

HEY METRO,

Is frontier1 an FA now.... Sounds like something she would say.

 

[Corona]

No SH!T, man. Uncle Sam usually has me fly for TDYs in civvies, so I would have felt MORE THAN WELCOME expressing my opinion of that flight attendant. It wouldn't have taken more than a simple sarcastic remark, but it would have been well worth it.

I don't care what your hippie liberal kiddie beliefs are about the "unjust war" and how we're not doing any good over there (a lie). Shut your f*cking yap about your opinions out of simple f*cking RESPECT around the men/women who offered their lives so left-wing idiots have the freedom to whine and complain about us handling a conflict like men. I have seriously started to have a sneaky suspicion that the whole "no war no matter what" movement is just an expression of the liberal "inner pusssy" -- people lacking the moral fiber to stand up for what they believe with something more than a word or a pen.

I guess I'm one of those hippie liberals who agrees with her opinion.

That being said, she should probably be disciplined or fired for expressing her views in the way she did. Professionalism requires one refrain from these sorts of diatribes during the performance of one's job. Then again, it's only a profession if the community makes it one.

Furry220, are you demonstrating your "fighter pilot" birth control techniques here? You seem to have your titt!es in quite the twister!

C

 

[bobbysamd]

Military service

I know that I will get flamed for this but I do hope everyone sees both sides of the issue. On one side we have the Captain address the soldiers and thanking them for their service on behalf of himself and the first officer. One could argue that by doing this he is representing the company. On the other side we have a flight attendent who says that she opposes the war and expresses this to the soldier.

There are not two sides of this issue at all and you are missing the point entirely. In war and in peacetime, the military always serves us and deserves our gratitude. Therefore, it is never wrong to thank our military for serving us.

Once more, the point is the FA has a right to her opinions. In uniform, on duty and representing her company, she should have kept her opinions to herself.

 

[Britpilot]

I know that I will get flamed for this but I do hope everyone sees both sides of the issue. On one side we have the Captain address the soldiers and thanking them for their service on behalf of himself and the first officer. One could argue that by doing this he is representing the company. On the other side we have a flight attendent who says that she opposes the war and expresses this to the soldier. My question is where is this different from the Captain who applaudes the soldiers.

The soldiers are in the SERVICE or their country.
Personal idealism does not enter any argument here. She was wrong and was abusing her position. At the very least she should be fired.

 

[AdlerDriver]

I don't care if it was an NG unit that did nothing more than push pencils at the airport, surrounded by the Third Infantry Division and facing nothing more dangerous than a paper cut. The bottom line is ... they SERVED. They stepped up ... PERIOD! Minh

I may have taken this quote incorrectly - if so then disregard.

There are NG and Reserve troops fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan right along side the active duty personnel. Just because a unit is NG or reserve doesn’t mean they function in a non-threatened support role “surrounded by the Third Infantry Division”.

Just wanted to set the record straight in case you had gotten that impression.

 

[sky37d]

There are not two sides of this issue at all and you are missing the point entirely. In war and in peacetime, the military always serves us and deserves our gratitude. Therefore, it is never wrong to thank our military for serving us.

Once more, the point is the FA has a right to her opinions. In uniform, on duty and representing her company, should have kept her opinions to herself. Whether the war is right or wrong is subjective and another issue altogether.

I totally agree. Bud even has a commercial thanking soldiers. But to slam them, while they are in their seats, trapped, is not only unprofessional, but threatening. On the ground, standing around, they could have walked away, but sitting on the plane, trying to get home, they could not do that.
She should be fired.

 

[C601]

yeah report the cow

 

[VampyreGTX]

What the captian said and what she said are two totally different things. The captain DID NOT express his opinion. He offered thanks and a welcome home to the soldiers for doing there job. He didn't say he agreed with the war or the policies surrounding it like the F/A did. Plain and simple, the F/A took what could have been a simple thanks fo all you've done. But she took it to her personal opinion and harrassed her passengers throughout the flight with it.

 

[N2264J]

"I'm just so glad you are all coming home. I'm so proud of you all. I just don't think you should have been there in the first place, but that's just my opinion. I don't agree with the war. But I'm really proud of you and so I'm torn."

I was shocked and offended...

Isn't it possible to support the troops and not support the war?

Or has the lexicon morphed into "don't support the war = don't support the troops"?

Sounds to me like the turn out at the Iraqi elections may be causing her to rethink her position. However, there were no weapons of mass destruction and there was no link between Hussein and the events of 9-11. Those are the reasons we went to war.

Now that the US is torturing detainees, I think we may have gone 'round the bend where the end justifys the means. That should shock and offend you more than a planeload of uncouth flight attendants.

 

[AdlerDriver]

Isn't it possible to support the troops and not support the war?

Or has the lexicon morphed into "don't support the war = don't support the troops"?

Question 1: Answer - No
Question 2: Answer - Yes (no morphing - always been that way).

As one who has been in combat overseas, I think I'm allowed to weigh in. It's not possible to "support" troops and oppose the war (i.e. the whole reason they're there and need to be supported in the first place). Go ahead and and oppose the war if you want - it's certainly your right to do so. Don't think you're fooling any of the troops by turning around and saying you "support" them. They don't want hollow words of support designed to make you feel better.

How is it you're actually supporting them? Have you made a special trip to an airport with food or something to thank them when they return. Have you mailed letters telling them how much you appreciate their efforts and the sacrifices of their families. How about volunteering at a day-care center on a military base - give the kids missing a parent some extra love while they miss their mom or dad. Do you pray for them? (really pray).

You don't support the war so you don't believe in what they're doing. The daily efforts they make are a mistake our government directed them to make in your eyes.

Believe me, the idiot standing on a street corner, safe and sound in the USA, with a war protest sign over his shoulder telling the camera he supports the troops is fooling no one but himself.

 

[Snakum]

Isn't it possible to support the troops and not support the war?

Absolutely it's possible and plenty of folks are in that position. And that's exactly what she should have done. She should have thanked them for their service and then shut the f@ck up.

Minh

 

[Skyboss]

Sounds like she's not getting dick anymore.

 

[Fury220]

Furry220, are you demonstrating your "fighter pilot" birth control techniques here? You seem to have your titt!es in quite the twister!

C

First off, drop one of those "r's" outta your spelling. My SN is in regards to my attitude, not my a$$, my friend. kthx

Second, you're daamnn right I have my titt!es in a twister over this. I'm in my uniform (on average) 12 hours a day, and, in the course of going/coming (sts) to/from work, I run into all KINDS of wussy liberal sympathizers (yes, even in TX). It seems like the fact I have a uniform on makes me a target for political discussion, while more don't understand the fact that, while in uniform, I'm unable to comment AT ALL politically (lest people take my opinions as the "official" opinions of the USAF...).

This is where the F/A screwed the pooch. She's wearing a uniform, which means she represents the organization represented by the uniform. Personal opinions aside, you are OWNED by the company while you're on the clock. While it's valid to mention that the captain expressed an opinion while representing the company, we must realize that the opinion expressed was non-politically based and is really no different than saying "God Bless America" after a speech (as many public speakers do). We MUST see the demarkation between "Thanks, troops" and "hey troops, thanks, but I don't agree with what you've been busting a$$ over and dying over for the last couple years."

Maybe the F/A realized her mistake, as she then offered free liquor and tried to be a little more friendly to the servicemembers. I think we can all agree that she should have just shut her trap. Instead, she dug deeper while trying to climb out of the hole she was in.


Now, back to my personal perspective on talking to servicemembers. EVERY time someone starts wanting to talk war/politics with me while I'm in uniform, I bite my tongue. If you've ever tried to talk politics with a uniformed servicemember, $5 will get you $10 that he/she has been chomping at the bit to tell you what they think, but won't. It's called discipline.

The best thing to do when you encounter a uniformed servicemember:
Thank them and shut the F@CK up.


And yeah, if feeling strongly about something is a "birth control personality," then I guess I'm guilty as charged. In my experience, the hot chicks love a guy with a spine.



...and this reminds me of another joke:

Q: How do you know when you have a fighter pilot at your party?
A: Oh, he'll tell you. haha

 

[Fury220]

Believe me, the idiot standing on a street corner, safe and sound in the USA, with a war protest sign over his shoulder telling the camera he supports the troops is fooling no one but himself.

Don't forget: he's also fooling the thousands of other idiots with war protest signs






Guys, I realize my last post was a little emotional (a la the giant "SHUT THE F@CK UP...), so take it with a little sense of humor.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Well said Fury. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it amazes me how people who know absolutely nothing about what is going on (other than what they hear on CNN) will carry on as though they are experts on the Middle East and have the solutions to all of the world's problems. Its like a f/a lecturing the Captain on how to fly. Thanks to all of you guys for your hard work and dedication.

 

[flyifrvfr]

Moron.

To begin, I am not a liberal nor a traitor, and I have thought before I typed. I have a brother who is in Iraq right now. I support my president, our troops, and the war. What I won't do is deny someone their right to free speech while my brother is fighting for all of all rights. I do feel that the flight attendant does have the right to express her opinion. Many men have died for your rights, one of which is free speech. Metro, you have the right to call me a moron, but if you new me you wouldn't call me a moron.

What amazes me is that I haven't said I agree with what she said, I merely acknowledge the fact that she has a right to say it. Her view isn't popular and people jump on her, in the same as you have to me. I can't stress enough that the Captain and other flight attendant has expressed thier support and the F/A in question has expressed her opposition and now you want to report only the F/A because she doesn't agree with everyone else. This is hypocritical and wrong. The soldier acknowledged the right of the F/A to have free speech.

If you try to deny the F/A's right to free speech, but yet support the war and the troops you are a hypocrit (sic?) plain and simple.

 

[Fury220]

flyifrvfr, reread my post, particularly:

This is where the F/A screwed the pooch. She's wearing a uniform, which means she represents the organization represented by the uniform. Personal opinions aside, you are OWNED by the company while you're on the clock. While it's valid to mention that the captain expressed an opinion while representing the company, we must realize that the opinion expressed was non-politically based and is really no different than saying "God Bless America" after a speech (as many public speakers do). We MUST see the demarkation between "Thanks, troops" and "hey troops, thanks, but I don't agree with what you've been busting a$$ over and dying over for the last couple years."