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Ace757

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Hey, I kind of have a problem, and am looking for anyone that might have some advice. I currently hold a Commercial Multi-Engine certificate which I got at one of the more well known flight school. The problem I have is that I am still in college at a place that is in the middle of no where. I do not have to opportunity to get my CFI here, and even if for some reason I was able to take some time off and get my CFI their would be no one for me to teach hear. So currency wise im kinda stuck. I do not have to money to keep paying for hours, but at the same time I have about 2 years left of school. By the time I get out im afraid that I will have forgotten a lot of stuff, and my flying skill would not be to sharp either. My # 1 goal is to go to ASA. It always has been. No flame needed here. Its just a personal prefrance. ASA is the reason I originally got into aviation, and I really want to work there. What would be the best way for me to stay current, and get enough hours to go to ASA by the time I graduate? Any comments???
 
Lequip said:
Yeah, Since your not flying why don't you focus more on English and Grammar.
Hey Lequip, guys in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Did you mean "you're," as in, "since you are not flying?"
 
Thanks for the advice Lequip. I will definatly try to work on that. Maybe I will just read my post before I post it next time.


Now that my spelling problem has been taken care of, does anyone have any advice on flying?

Anyone?
 
Lequip: What does spelling or grammar have to do with flying?

Ace: Just do something. Anything. Going somewhere to get your CFI is a start. Be enterprising. You can find someone willing to lease back their airplane to someone like yourself, upon which you could you could instruct. GA pilots are everywhere, and you could put up fliers at FBOs and the like. You wouldn't believe how much business you could drum up just by looking to get people their two-year rides or instrument currency. And if you got your MEI? Just ask anyone who has one about the possibilities.

You've got a couple of years. Look at that as your part-time job while you finish school. It'll look good on a resume when you're ready to interview. And it sure beats flipping burgers.
 
No glass house here English. Let me correct you English. The use of "Your" doesn't always have to be a possessive. "Your" can be used in any capacity relating to "You" or "Yourself". Stick to being a crappy chick pilot English because your not that good as a know it all.
 
Lequip said:
No glass house here English. Let me correct you English. The use of "Your" doesn't always have to be a possessive. "Your" can be used in any capacity relating to "You" or "Yourself". Stick to being a crappy chick pilot English because your not that good as a know it all.
touche
 
your: adj. The possessive form of you.
  1. Used as a modifier before a noun: your boots; your accomplishments.
  2. A person's; one's: The light switch is on your right.
  3. Informal. Used with little or no sense of possession to indicate a type familiar to the listener: your basic three-story frame house.
 
to Ace757

ATP huh? 04D gave it away. Don't worry about it (currency). Just get the degree and when u can afford it - get recurrent (even in 2 years if you have to). Or just find a twin operator at a local a/p who's looking for a safety pilot or a rt seat shoulder to cry on or rt seat ear to bend. That'll keep u exposed and maybe you'll bum a few bump and drags outta it.

PS: remember to ONLY LOG WHAT IS LEGAL!!!
 
My advise is don't tie yourself in to one airline. ASA is a good place to be but there are lots of better places (and some worse too). A lot of people starting out in aviation get hard ons about certain airlines, hell even I did. Then you learn that airlines changes, companies go out, new companies start, and so on. When are are applying to airlines are you going to pass up good opportunities to hold out for ASA, since that is your "dream place"? I hope not.
 
Lequip said:
No glass house here English. Let me correct you English. The use of "Your" doesn't always have to be a possessive. "Your" can be used in any capacity relating to "You" or "Yourself". Stick to being a crappy chick pilot English because your not that good as a know it all.
Hey, Lequip.

You are wrong. English is correct.

Your English leaves something to be desired, so you should refrain from correcting other people's grammar and spelling. Twice now you've used "your" when you should have used "you're," and you just used "you" instead of "your." What's your deal?!?!


"Your" is always a possessive pronoun - - by definition.

It's "know-it-all," not "know it all."

The word "grammar" is only capitalized when it's the first word in a sentence.


Ace757: Why not transfer to a college in a more aviation-friendly community?
 
TonyC said:
Ace757: Why not transfer to a college in a more aviation-friendly community?
I would, but I have quite a bit invested here and I want to be able to graduate on time. My Major would not transfer to very many schools.
 
Ace757 said:
I would, but I have quite a bit invested here and I want to be able to graduate on time. My Major would not transfer to very many schools.
This statement contradicts your first post, where you said your # 1 goal was to go to ASA.

You've stated you can't get the hours where you are. You've stated you need hours to meet the goal of ASA. It seems clear to me, unless your # 1 goal is actually to graduate from the college where you sit, unhappily, in two years.


Pick your priority.
 
TonyC is right. You need to set your goals and stick to them. Or you can get a sex change and look like the chick in YOUR avatar. This would lower your hiring mins and you could bypass the whole CFI thing.
 
Well I would imagine that I would need to graduate to be competitive at all. Espicially with my whopping 400 hours. So graduating is part of the process of getting what I need to go to ASA.
 
Where do you attend school? I can't imagine there isn't some kind of aviation activity nearby.
 
I would rather not post the name, but their is a aviation opportunity here for some people. But they are the only game in town. Because I did my training elsewhere im not really eligable. + they won't be hiring in the next year anyway.
 
Ace757 said:
Well I would imagine that I would need to graduate to be competitive at all. Espicially with my whopping 400 hours. So graduating is part of the process of getting what I need to go to ASA.
You need the flight time a lot more than you need the degree at this level.

Log the time, get the job, then worry about finishing the degree if this is really what you want to do. Otherwise, sounds like your trying to hedge your bet by maybe making yourself qualified to do something else if this doesn't work out. Not a bad idea, but it sounds like one could be coming at the expense of the other.
 
Ace757 said:
I would, but I have quite a bit invested here and I want to be able to graduate on time. My Major would not transfer to very many schools.
As with most things where there is a will to do something there is a way to make it happen. A few suggestions...finish college as a priority.....consider lumping your classes together so you don't have Friday classes.....hit the road Thursday night and fly Friday-Sunday. Back to school Sunday night. Check around any airport that you can get to and shake hands with the pilots. Tell them what you're trying to do (keep current/build time) and see if they know anyone who wants to do the same thing. Don't be a freeloader...offer to chip in for gas/expenses. Please don't post some reply that this wont work for some personal situation or reason. If you want to do it you'll make it happen Captain.
 
WhiteCloud said:
If you want to do it you'll make it happen Captain.

Amen to that. There are plenty of reasons why it can't happen and all the reason in the world why you CAN make it happen.

I was 33, holding down a full-time job that I hated and had no savings when I took my first flight lesson five years ago. Don't tell ME you can't do it.
 
Wo wo wo...Hold on. I never said anything about not making it, or not doing it. I just said that I will be really rusty if I wait for 2 years until I graduate to start flying on a regular basis again. I was more or less looking for suggestions on the best way to stay up on things so I dont have to start off at square 1 again when I graduate
 
Lequip said:
No glass house here English. Let me correct you English. The use of "Your" doesn't always have to be a possessive. "Your" can be used in any capacity relating to "You" or "Yourself". Stick to being a crappy chick pilot English because your not that good as a know it all.
Hey Lequip:
If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose!
737
 
Ace757,

You may feel stuck now, but use this time as an opportunity to secure a skill that will allow you to make ends meet while you wait for flying to open up. By all means finish your degree. Also, I know you prefer ASA, but right now the regionals are still in a state of flux. Be open-minded to what you want, ie what do you like about ASA and see if you can match that up at any of the other carriers. Another thing to consider when looking at regionals is quality of life with commuting-how hard is it, how easy is it. If you do get your CFI-which I recommend you do, you need to go to where you can teach. Teaching not only allows you to build your TT but really expand and reinforce the knowledge that you do have. Plain and simple-don't pigeonhole yourself this early in the game. I worked on my Private my sophomore year in college-too broke to finish, I didn't get back to it until after graduate school. Then I worked on my ratings while I also worked second shift at the hospital. I taught for a year then got hired on by Commutair. My hospital job paid the bills, Commutair put gas in the car. At 27, I had 2 degrees, a marketable skill and my CFI/CFII/MEI.
 
Put all of your (not you're) eggs in one (not won) basket. Why don't you quit this thing called college on go on to get all of your (once again not you're) hours needed to get hired by ASA. Then once you upgrade just enroll yourself into (not in to) a correspondent course.
 
Simon Says means "correspondence" course. You're all aware of that, I'm sure.
On the real topic of this thread, my advice is: get a degree and fly as often as you can in the meantime to stay current. When you graduate go to one of the numerous CFI factories around the country (ALLATPS, American Flyers, etc.), then be prepared to teach at a flight school with many multi students. Be prepared to move, and be prepared to go where the work is, even if it's not ASA. You'll have your 1200/200 hours by the time you're 24, if not sooner. You also never know when you'll lose your medical, so you'll always need the degree more than flight hours.
Yours,
cathal
 
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cathal said:
You also never know when you'll lose your medical, so you'll always need the degree more than flight hours.

Best piece of advice I've heard yet on this topic.
 
Degree first.

Hey Ace,

I can't stress dis enuf. Git da degree. Man, dey onse sade, "Degree?! You don't need no stinkin' degree!" But now look. You ain't gonna finde Notin' beyond Regional flyin' without da 4-yere degree! If ASA is da goal, go 4 it! BUTT... if you don't git no stinkin' degree, you gots nothin' to fall back on! It dis industry, it could be anythin'! No medical... no degree. No money... you furloughed! So, dude, git da degree, go git da CFI at da CFI factory, start moochin' sum time, make as many contacts as ya cann, and git da job!

"YOU CAN DO IT!!!"

Follow the dream & Blue Side Up!
 

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