If you had a choice: ERJ or CRJ

[Flying Illini]

All other things being equal, which would you rather fly and why?

I figure since I will be spending a large portion of my time in one, what are the pros and cons of each?

I'm particularly interested in what those who have flown both have to say.

 

[jumppilot]

You are a dork.

Easy answer: Whichever pays the paycheck.

It's not like you're going to have your choice of which one to fly...Whoever gives you your first job determines which one you fly.

How's flight instructing going?

 

[Flying Illini]

Wow, hey thanks for responding! Did you respond just to up your post total?

How's flight instructing going?

what's wrong with flight instructing? I hope nothing since your profile indicates that your a "double I."

Dorky question to you, maybe, but it is still something I'm curious about. Don't like it, don't respond.

And if you read the first post, it says, "All other things being equal..." That means, if the pay was the same, bennies the same, QOL the same, etc.

I will restate the question: If someone told you that you were going to spend 800+ hours a year in one or the other and you got to choose, which would it be?


disclaimer: yes, I know that in real life there are issues other than what you fly to concern yourself with. I am just curious about the opinions that those who have flown both may have. My decision upon which company to work for is not going to be based soley on what aircraft they operate.

 

[boxjockey]

I think more important is the company supporting the aircraft, not the plane itself. The question is very subjective. The same aircraft at two different carriers will probably yield two different opinions from the same pilot. If you work for a carrier that does a good job of maintaining the A/C, versus one who does the minimum, then you will have a more enjoyable time flying the first A/C. Same with CRJ vs. ERJ. No answer recieved is going to be objective, so what's the use. I say go for the one that flys slower. Since we're all paid by the hour, you'll make more money.


box

 

[Alchemy]

Well, since I´ve only flown the ERJ, I´d like to fly the CRJ just for comparison´s sake.



I´ve only talked to one guy who´s flown both. Says he liked the handling of the ERJ better but the cockpit layout of the CRJ better. I also hear that the CRJ lands better than the ERJ but that the ERJ is a slighty better climb and speed performer. The CRJ does have a higher ceiling though. I think the ERJ might have the upper hand in the maintenance/reliability department. This is all second hand info of course since I´ve only flown one....

Most of this is in reference to the ERJ145LR vs the CRJ200. Throwin a CRJ700 or 900 or an EMB 145XR and things change a little.

 

[Flying Illini]

Thanks Alchemy, that's exactly the type of stuff I was looking for!

 

[FurloughedAgain]

This is like watching Jerry Springer and being told that you have to pick between trailer-trash queen #1 and transvestite redneck queen #2.

Neither option is particularly appealing.

Have you considered law school?

 

[EMB170Pilot]

lol


really man they are both great airplanes just do research on the COMPANY

my 2 cents

although the EMB170 is GREAT beats the crj700 by a longshot

 

[Standby 1]

the ERJ is a slighty better climb and speed performer.

wow - I've never flown the Canadian version but I didn't think anything could be worse than the jungle jet in the climb. Some days it seems like a cessna (of the SE variety) could outclimb us.







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[BigPappa]

Furloughed again,

Have you considered getting out of aviation so that we can take your seniority in the business, that way you can go to law school! That seems the only response you keep having. If the man wanted to go to Law School he would not be posting on here. If you're unhappy about your profession then do something about it and GET OUT! Quit responding with ignorant answers you big D(0)RK.

 

[sweptback]

although the EMB170 is GREAT beats the crj700 by a longshot

Are you talking about the size of the cabin or aircraft performance? Because it's two very different things.

Obviously you're very happy you're flying the 170 (same goes forthe145or 200), and that's great, but regardless of what airplane youfly, itgoes in the logbook as multi-turbine SIC time. All the same inthe end,really.

To the original poster, I say go for whichever airline calls youfirst,and then if you have a choice to make, go with who pays more onthe FOside. Because whatever regional you get on with today you'llprobablybe there for awhile, and what seems like a minor detail now maybe abig deal to you in 2 or 3 years.

The new and shinyness of the airplane type wears off after you've hadayear or two under your belt and can count the number ofweekendsandholidays off on your right hand, you know? I mean, we're allpilots,and pilots love to fly cool airplanes, but at the end of the daythisis a job.

But really, if you have a choice to make, and it boils down to what airplane type you want to fly, I envy you.

edit: the dreaded space caper strikes again...

 

[FurloughedAgain]

BigPappa,

Pal, i'd sell that "seniority in the business" on Ebay if I thought I could get anything for it.

 

[Smoothflyin]

Pilots that fly jets are cool!!!

 

[CitationLover]

lol


really man they are both great airplanes just do research on the COMPANY

my 2 cents

although the EMB170 is GREAT beats the crj700 by a longshot

well the CRJ 700 goes higher, faster, and climbs faster.

both seem to have their share of electrical gremlins. its not called the EMB180 for no reason.

sure its great for being a passenger but other than that me thinks its the other way around.

 

[DrewBlows]

All other things being equal, which would you rather fly and why?

I figure since I will be spending a large portion of my time in one, what are the pros and cons of each?

I'm particularly interested in what those who have flown both have to say.

Trick question!

Neither, the only real answer is the FRJ. It climbs real fast (not real high), goes real slow, and has VNAV so you don't have to spend time with pointless tasks like planning your descent. Plus the cockpit is painted kind of purpleish blue instead of grey, so you're always in a good mood.

 

[skeezer]

Neither, the only real answer is the FRJ.......Plus the cockpit is painted kind of purpleish blue instead of grey, so you're always in a good mood.

Yeah, but the panels are all velcroed (sp?) on so they fall in your lap during T/O and some just hang there during flight.

Perfect for hiding porn though.

Oh, I almost forgot. If the seat in that thing is anything like the prop (and I think it is) you might as well sit on a piece of plywood. Your a$$ will hurt like heck after about 30 minutes. That said, d@mn I miss that plane!

Skeezer

 

[TheBigH]

Dude trash the jets, be a real man and go fly a Beeech ... Who needs fancy avionics and creature comforts, it's all about the vibration, feeling it in your bones man ....

 

[FurloughedAgain]

A Beech? Which one? Certainly not that pansy "D" model! You boys with your "stand up cabins" and your "EFIS" and your good bleeds with your clean shirts!

Bah!

The JETSTREAM.... now THAT was an airplane that made a man feel like he ACCOMPLISHED something at the end of the day.

 

[five-alive]

Having flown both, Ill take the ERJ. A little more automated and lower workload, cleaner cockpit too. CRJ must have 200 test switches!

BTW, the CRJ (200) sucks just as bad as the ERJ in climb. Yes ceiling is FL410 but you will only get there empty.

 

[TheBigH]

You boys with your "stand up cabins"

Are you telling me I've been slouching all this time for no reason !!!

and your "EFIS"

I turn mine off and fly with the standby...

and your good bleeds

Only good bleeds we have are when we knock out a passanger for making the puddle jumper remark ...

with your clean shirts!

I wear mine 4 days in a row, 3 in the summer ...

The JETSTREAM.... now THAT was an airplane that made a man feel like he ACCOMPLISHED something at the end of the day.

And what would that be ? Permanent hearing loss ?

 

[Alchemy]

Dorky discussion, I know, but I've never denied being a Dork.

wow - I've never flown the Canadian version but I didn't think anything could be worse than the jungle jet in the climb. Some days it seems like a cessna (of the SE variety) could outclimb us.

Well, check out some of the comments in the "Pinnacle Crash" thread:

The problem with the -200 is it can out-climb its ability to cruise. Meaning it might get up there but once you level off your speed could potentially start to decrease. Any turbulence or turns at that low speed could stall the plane. The rule of thumb at my airline is don't ever get below 250 knots or .70 mach while climbing and you'll be okay.

500 fpm all the way up. The CRJ-200 is a clapped out dog.

Granted, I haven't flown the ERJ in the summertime yet, but 1000 fpm is no problem up to FL370 even with full load and lots of gas. 1300-1700 fpm is no problem in the flight levels if you hold .60-.65 in the climb instead of curtailing some vertical speed out of consideration for the faster guys.

 

[DrewBlows]

Yeah, but the panels are all velcroed (sp?) on so they fall in your lap during T/O and some just hang there during flight.

Perfect for hiding porn though.

Oh, I almost forgot. If the seat in that thing is anything like the prop (and I think it is) you might as well sit on a piece of plywood. Your a$$ will hurt like heck after about 30 minutes. That said, d@mn I miss that plane!

Skeezer

Yeah, the seats suck (in the front anyway, in the back are much nicer than any other RJ I've been in). I'm considering buying a set of trucker beads to give my a$$ a break.

 

[DrewBlows]

Perhaps I should clarify, the trucker beads are for the seat...

...not my a$$.