If the 1108 goes away...

[GlorifiedCabbie]

What makes the in house CL 300/350 pilots think they will keep their pay? If a G-650 Captain makes $160,000, Kenn will claim he can only afford to pay them $150,000. You probably don't remember when Kenn was paying his personal pilots $35,000 when corporate pilots were making $50,000 on the low end of the scale. I could give up salary for job security, but job security doesn't exist here with Kenn's management team.

 

[rajflyboy]

Get that electronic log book up to date

and start applying for other jobs

lots of Pilot Jobs out there right now

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

And what about the "parallel investigations"? You file an ASAP and the board comes out with a recommendation. The company takes that recommendation and does an investigation to see who needed to be "retrained" . Under the company control, filing an ASAP is like telling on yourself and then getting a letter in your file. Another way the company builds trust with it's pilots.

 

[dime line]

I dare somebody to tell of one company on earth where a Challenger pilot makes more than a Gulfstream pilot......just one, ill wait

so you challenger pilots have the most to loose if this contract goes away.

At RTA, they had a 6/5 (for a few) and a 6/4, ...........IT BECAME A 8/7 all after the union vote failed

Paid long term parking..........GONE.......Iremember Ken saying he pays enough in fuel price, Fbo can drive you. After the union vote as well

Duty on Duty off times .........bye bye........no more of that, don’t like it get a new job

Fatique program............. GONE............fly or get a new job

file an ASAP, expect Reinhold as prosecution and Kellermeyer as your defense lawyer.

overtime money..........guess on my part, I think it cost too much to track

AND I VOTED NO UNION 17 YEARS AGO,

please add add to this list

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

"I dare somebody to tell of one company on earth where a Challenger pilot makes more than a Gulfstream pilot......just one, ill wait"

In the upside down world of Kenn Ricci.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

[FONT=&quot]Or you may have to agree to something like this:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This position may be subject to Ricci's Social Contribution Policy. An offer of employment may be contingent upon disclosing to Ricci the details of certain social contributions. Ricci may decline to extend an offer or terminate employment for this role if it determines social contributions made could have an adverse impact on Ricci's current or future business interests, misrepresentations were made, or for failure to fully disclose applicable social contributions and or fundraising activities.[/FONT]

 

[TexasChallenger]

Or you may have to agree to something like this:
This position may be subject to Ricci's Social Contribution Policy. An offer of employment may be contingent upon disclosing to Ricci the details of certain social contributions. Ricci may decline to extend an offer or terminate employment for this role if it determines social contributions made could have an adverse impact on Ricci's current or future business interests, misrepresentations were made, or for failure to fully disclose applicable social contributions and or fundraising activities.

Where’s this from???

 

[Bjtdrvr]

I am thinking sarcasm

 

[justmeinmsp]

I’m still baffled how someone could take a company from being a great place to work, to being a complete $41t show with a handful of guys willing to sell their souls at the expense of their fellow employees. Unbelievable

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Where’s this from???

Although it was intended as sarcasm, it has a sting of truth. This came from a company that has/or had an indirect tie to Ricci.

 

[shanes123]

What’s this Straw Man thing? Is that FW wishing he had a brain. Like the scarecrow in the wizard of oz???

 

[dime line]

what i find funny, Wolkie looks like he is at or above 60 years old, he will be long gone by the time the no-union pilots figure out they don't like policy changes via email on a Friday night, and 4 am phone call walkeup to fix scheduling screw ups

Flex pilots-Remember the TIER 1,2,3 airports friday email.......................no you wouldn't, you were at a company that gave a sht, but we remember that email.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Wolkie over 60? Maybe that is why he thinks working here without a contract is a good idea. He really has gone senile.

 

[shanes123]

He looks 70 Must have had a rough childhood

 

[rajflyboy]

Don’t be stupid

Keep the union. Work towards having the best job in the industry. You need better schedules and pay. Don’t be scared. Don’t believe much of the chatter you are hearing from behind the curtains.

 

[flexible]

I can't remember his exact age but FW is not too much past 50.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

If FW is only in his 50's, He will be the true definition of a "trapped employee". At the current pace, this company will be out of business in less than three years. Once another carrier finds out about his and his cronies behavior, No airline will risk hiring them.

 

[shanes123]

Wow. He looks horrible if he’s really that young. I don’t believe it.

 

[flexible]

Wow. He looks horrible if he’s really that young. I don’t believe it.

I just looked up his certificate. He is 51.

I guess it's true what they say about your insides matching your outsides.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Too much alcohol or too many all nighters?

 

[shanes123]

OMFG. I would have seriously guessed 65+. He must make a lot of his old classmates in high school feel good at the reunions. His class probably has one every 6 months just for the ego boost.

 

[GooodLaaa]

If the Union goes away for One Sky, could be really great for QS guys...

 

[MagnumPI]

If the Union goes away for One Sky, could be really great for QS guys...

How so? Those guys may lose their union as well if Flex gets rid of the 1108. There’s lots of unin busting companies out there to help take care of QS’ union. Decertifiying the Teamsters will set a dangerous precedent for other companies to follow. Wouldn’t surprise me if the airlines take notice as well of how this all goes down. JW was correct this thing is historical.

 

[GooodLaaa]

How so? Those guys may lose their union as well if Flex gets rid of the 1108. There’s lots of unin busting companies out there to help take care of QS’ union. Decertifiying the Teamsters will set a dangerous precedent for other companies to follow. Wouldn’t surprise me if the airlines take notice as well of how this all goes down. JW was correct this thing is historical.

Well, have you noticed NJASAP and management are playing nice now? How did that come about so quickly? Perhaps Netjets may in fact be buying Flex. If the Onesky decerts it will benefit NJASAP Pilots. Why? Cause there wouldn’t have to be an integration. There would be a stapling of the all the flex/options guys below all the NJA guys. Solves NJA management problems for keeping their pilots happy allowing upgrades for super junior guys and more large aircraft for middle of seniority list guys! Without a union, there’s no integration!

 

[Bjtdrvr]

I actually think that Macaskel Bond (sp) applies to all groups regardless of if they have a union or not.

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

Well, have you noticed NJASAP and management are playing nice now? How did that come about so quickly? Perhaps Netjets may in fact be buying Flex. If the Onesky decerts it will benefit NJASAP Pilots. Why? Cause there wouldn’t have to be an integration. There would be a stapling of the all the flex/options guys below all the NJA guys. Solves NJA management problems for keeping their pilots happy allowing upgrades for super junior guys and more large aircraft for middle of seniority list guys! Without a union, there’s no integration!

Nice conspiracy theory.

 

[Praetorian]

Well, have you noticed NJASAP and management are playing nice now? How did that come about so quickly? Perhaps Netjets may in fact be buying Flex. If the Onesky decerts it will benefit NJASAP Pilots. Why? Cause there wouldn’t have to be an integration. There would be a stapling of the all the flex/options guys below all the NJA guys. Solves NJA management problems for keeping their pilots happy allowing upgrades for super junior guys and more large aircraft for middle of seniority list guys! Without a union, there’s no integration!

???????????? Why would NJ ever buy Flex, when they can just sit back and watch? If Flex Pilots are stupid enough to decert, NJ will scoop up a lot of the union supporters who will, at that point, abandon the sinking ship. Many others will leave for other carriers. Since Flex is already severely understaffed with Pilots, the resulting post-decert exodus would deliver a fatal blow. NJ wins without lifting a finger.

Just like Ahab. Kenn is chasing his White Whale all the way into the abyss and I fear none of his managers have the courage to warn him about the disastrous game he is playing. I truely hope we Onesky Pilots aren’t foolish enough to follow.

 

[DirtyBeech]

???????????? Why would NJ ever buy Flex, when they can just sit back and watch? If Flex Pilots are stupid enough to decert, NJ will scoop up a lot of the union supporters who will, at that point, abandon the sinking ship. Many others will leave for other carriers. Since Flex is already severely understaffed with Pilots, the resulting post-decert exodus would deliver a fatal blow. NJ wins without lifting a finger.

Just like Ahab. Kenn is chasing his White Whale all the way into the abyss and I fear none of his managers have the courage to warn him about the disastrous game he is playing. I truely hope we Onesky Pilots aren’t foolish enough to follow.

That party is already over if the rumored number of PRIA requests sitting in CGF are true.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Kenn might beat the Union but it will lead to the demise of his company. If the Union goes away, did he really win when he can't hire anybody?

 

[GooodLaaa]

Nice conspiracy theory.[/QUOTE

Is it? Follow the players, see the game.

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???????????? Why would NJ ever buy Flex, when they can just sit back and watch? If Flex Pilots are stupid enough to decert, NJ will scoop up a lot of the union supporters who will, at that point, abandon the sinking ship. Many others will leave for other carriers. Since Flex is already severely understaffed with Pilots, the resulting post-decert exodus would deliver a fatal blow. NJ wins without lifting a finger.

Just like Ahab. Kenn is chasing his White Whale all the way into the abyss and I fear none of his managers have the courage to warn him about the disastrous game he is playing. I truely hope we Onesky Pilots aren’t foolish enough to follow.

i have been hearing Flex and options are going out of business for 15 years. Still here, I wouldn’t count on a fatal blow for Ricci with a pilot exodus. He’s like a cockroach after nuclear Armageddon...finds a way to stay kickin.