ICAO or FAA ATPL

[skid]

Ok, I know this doe snot directly go in this area but you people would know the best. What the heck is the difference between the ICAO/FAA ATPL and a regular ATP in the states or are they the same thing?

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Ok, I know this doe snot

Doe snot or Buck snot, it all grosses me out...
Anyway, thanks for asking that question, I've wondered about that also.

 

[MD80PILOT]

ICAO = International Civil Aviation Organization.
ATP = ATPL
Any Pilots license issued by a Country which is a member
of ICAO, is an ICAO license.

Each member state of ICAO has agreed to meet some minimum standards. However, each country also has the right to exceed those
minimums or standards (Feks: Great Britton).

JAA/JAR = Joint Aviation Authority/Joint Aviation Rules. Mostly European countries which have agreed upon a common set of rules, regs and training standards. A pilot license issued by any JAA participating country is good, without validation in ANY other JAA member country.

 

[Flybet3]

ICAO = International Civil Aviation Organization.
ATP = ATPL
Any Pilots license issued by a Country which is a member
of ICAO, is an ICAO license.

Each member state of ICAO has agreed to meet some minimum standards. However, each country also has the right to exceed those
minimums or standards (Feks: Great Britton).

JAA/JAR = Joint Aviation Authority/Joint Aviation Rules. Mostly European countries which have agreed upon a common set of rules, regs and training standards. A pilot license issued by any JAA participating country is good, without validation in ANY other JAA member country.

How long does it take to get an ICAO license? is it expensive? Is there a specific reason why anyone should try to get one????

 

[MED]

To the poster above; did you understand what md80pilot said?

If you have US ATP that's ICAO ATPL also. There is no actual ICAO certificate.

 

[Flybet3]

hmmm....

To the poster above; did you understand what md80pilot said?

If you have US ATP that's ICAO ATPL also. There is no actual ICAO certificate.

How about a JAA/JAR? Is it worth the money to get one of those?

 

[typhoonpilot]

How about a JAA/JAR? Is it worth the money to get one of those?

No, not unless you have the right to live and work in the EU.


TP

 

[MD80PILOT]

If you have the right to live and work inside the EU and you are willing to make the move, MAYBEE. There is a lot of programs from the LCC airlines in Europe where they will hire a pilot with much less time than here in the US, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A JAR LICENSE AND THE RIGHT TO LIVE AND WORK THERE. The pay is normally pretty good.

To get the JAR license is a time consuming and expensive process and you will have to study and learn a lot of "crap" you will never use or see again.

On the other hand, if one is starting out or are early on in their training to become a pilot, why not go to one of the Flight Schools here in the US that has the right to issue JAR licenses up to the CPL-IR/ME.
It will cost a little bit more than getting a FAA license, you will then most likely be able to take all the ATPL written tests (14) and get a "Frozen" JAR-ATPL (all Frozen means is that you have a CPL and completed the ATPL writtens). but again, if you have the right to live and work inside the EU area it might very well be worth it.