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hawkerjet said:
next ,go next door to south africa and convert your namibian atp to an ICAO or british atp. voila, this worked several years ago so some up to date research needs to be done. good luck.

Again, with the old rules (i.e. UK CAA rules) and the new JAA rules there was no and is no distinction between a Namibian, South African or American ATP with respect to the UK. There is no point in converting to Namibian then British, because the process would be the same to go straight to British (now JAA) from an FAA certificate. I am assuming, in saying this that Namibia is an ICAO contracting state.
 
raysalmon if I understand you correctly, you are saying that you can go to the UK and present a FAA ATP certificate, for the British to issue you a UK ATP?

Is this correct?

hawkerjet thats agood idea, except that, in my experience, the SACAA (south afria) will only give you a validation for your namibian license. This is also the case with the FAA ATP, I know this, since there was aguy in my company in namibia that had a FAA ATP and could only get a validation with NamDCA, not a namibian license.

looks like some pencilpusher caught on to the loophole
 
Skaz,

No!!! The JAA has made it very hard to "convert" to JAA licenses. You can get a validation for one year from JAA member states, but in order to get an actual JAA license you would be required to undergo approved theoretical and flight training along with all the ground exams and skill tests in order to get the JAA ATPL. This would apply to all non-JAA licenses issued by an ICAO contracting state. The amount of training you need is determined by the Head of Training at the approved school you go to.

Ray
 
I work in Europe and my company has pilots with all kinds of different licenses. Many of our captains (and probably some F/O's) just have a JAA validation. This means that they still have their national license (non JAA) and every 6 months when they do their OPC/LPC its validated for another 6 months. I don't know exactly for how long you can keep on validating your national license before you have to get an actual JAA license.
I know the rules to convert another license to JAA vary between different member states. If, for example, you have a FAA ATPL you may only need to take an Air Law and Human performance test in Ireland, while as in sweden you might have to go thru the 700+ hours of ground school and take all 14 written exams. In the end its the same license.
As for the flying part, you wouldn't have to take many flight lessons. A friend of mine converted his FAA CPL to a JAA CPL in the UK a few years ago. He took a couple of flight lessons to get used to flying in europe. I don't think he flew more than 10 hours before his skill test.
 
Agree with Stby One – it’s the theoretical exams that’s the obstacle. Some countries have less exams but still leads to a JAA license. No need for lots of flight training if you are up to speed. A warm up and familiarization with the applicable skill test profile is often enough if you are current
 

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