Ibt files for single carrier . Flexjet/flightoptions

[SDCFI]

You idiot. Every time I see your name next to a post I know I'm prolly about to read some serious bull********************. I hate saying it since we are obviously on the same side of not wanting a union or at least not sure if we do. Evry time you open your stupid mouth you make the rest of us not on the union cheerleading team seem more confusing than caitlin jenner.

Both pilots groups are relatively equal rocket scientist. They would have to have outstanding support on both sides to make the risk worth it or else would be cancelling each other out

no way FLOPS has over 75% with their ********************ty contract so it would have to mean the union knows for a fact FJ is close to 60 by themselves. They have the cards, so you figure it out dumbass. I'm worried thos tjong is locked up and you giving an excuse for complacency irritates me. It ducking does matter.

The NMB is the one who decides the election schedule not the union so your opinion about what seems realistic doesn't amount to a hill of ********************. Once they say yes there is a deadline of 2 months. Ken seems to be all for it so I doubt it will take them long to decide. 2 months from now is September. Do you want to waste that time arguing against the obvious that both sides have the majority of support or do you want to get to work actually getting answers before we commit our lives to years of potential hell based on either ********************ty choice?

Holy geez are you always this angry or is it just the internet persona? Someone said seniority integration will be done by the end of this year, looking at the recent airline mergers they haven't gone so well but I'm no expert just genuinely curious. And sorry to burst your bubble but I'm happily on the pro union side and while it may not be the smoothest ride I hardly think it will qualify as hell.

 

[Photoflight]

Last I heard it was over 60% of flex pilots.

IMO: Single carrier is coming, the union is
Coming.

Our fight is against the managemt team that's lied and manipulated us this last year and a half. I would suggest starting to prepare for that.

Hopefully NetJets can lead the way for us all with an industry leading contract and we can capitalize on that.

 

[luckydog]

And this is the problem, you guys get on here and think that you know everything there is to know about everything.
You yell and curse and try to throw your muscle around thinking you are all mighty.
When in reality you guys are nothing but a bunch of uniformed cry babies.

How many times has it been said that, nobody from FJ will fall under our contract.
A new contract covering all employees will be negotiated.



Also I make $126,400 a year, last I saw a Red Label G pilot makes $140,000 a year. So you can't even do math either.

Get informed or stop trying to act informed and yelling about false bs.

For God's sake, stop with the name calling already, you sound like just another internet idiot.

Triple is a bit of a stretch but adding in the never attainable bonus, Red Label has the potential for a nice payout. It's a fools errand.

More to the point, a 9 year Lear captain makes what you do, and I'd bet you've been working for DAC a lot longer than 9 years.

In any case, a new contract will have to be settled, it remains to be seen how that works out. The trend lately is nothing but downward.

 

[dime line]

Exactly nothing changes for you You stuck the same ********************ty pay for the last however many effing years?

You maybe right about the bonus 401 but I prolly make double what you're highest paid captain makes. If I get my spot on a red label make that triple. Now you're plan is to take away the only opportunity I have make up for my losses because red label points out what the crap sammwich your willing eat at FLOPS?


Can you guarantee me you're precious union won't cut my gravy train off and bring me down to the sub par salary you deal get?

Screw upgrades. Screw seniority. Im not one to be lured by a titles or extra work. I'll sit in a right seat of a POS beech for all I care. Show the money. Your ********************ty contract can't do that and now your trying to drag us down to your level. Now that you pulled this election shenanigans it's just 6 months sooner I end up on your payscale when we're forced into your contract. Thanks.

F@CK THAT. Why so many FJ pilots drank the union kool-aid is beyond me. For me the filing proves we're sealed to the union fats once and for all and 6 months quicker. I just hope we don't regret it now that we don't really have a choice.

except with no union YOU wouldn't be going to the Red label program, your not one of Riccis boys, and your "double pay" thingy will go bye bye as well, Ricci has already said that your overpaid. So really the only thing I agree with you on is ... "F@CK THAT" and "Show the money", back to your ME speech, quite funny

 

[dime line]

You will never be on the Flight Options pilots current CBA unless you quit Flex and get hired as a new FO pilot.

You might very well be on the new Joint CBA which will be negotiated in the future. If you are worried about a pay cut in the JCBA just vote NO. I don't know of any Flex pilot who would vote Yes for a pay cut in a new JCBA. Plus I can assure you that no Flight Options pilot will vote YES on a JCBA if the pay does not match your current pay.

So relax and enjoy the ride which is about to start.

add about 30,000 to FJ's payscale that is what I want. Look at Wallmarts scale. And also look at American Airlines new contract +16% into the individual pilots 401k from the company

 

[Praetorian]

You idiot. Every time I see your name next to a post I know I'm prolly about to read some serious bull********************. I hate saying it since we are obviously on the same side of not wanting a union or at least not sure if we do. Evry time you open your stupid mouth you make the rest of us not on the union cheerleading team seem more confusing than caitlin jenner.

Both pilots groups are relatively equal rocket scientist. They would have to have outstanding support on both sides to make the risk worth it or else would be cancelling each other out

no way FLOPS has over 75% with their ********************ty contract so it would have to mean the union knows for a fact FJ is close to 60 by themselves. They have the cards, so you figure it out dumbass. I'm worried thos tjong is locked up and you giving an excuse for complacency irritates me. It ducking does matter.

The NMB is the one who decides the election schedule not the union so your opinion about what seems realistic doesn't amount to a hill of ********************. Once they say yes there is a deadline of 2 months. Ken seems to be all for it so I doubt it will take them long to decide. 2 months from now is September. Do you want to waste that time arguing against the obvious that both sides have the majority of support or do you want to get to work actually getting answers before we commit our lives to years of potential hell based on either ********************ty choice?

Ok here we go. It's the, "get them fighting among themselves that way they vote no" union busting gambit. ^^^

Don't fall for it guys. It's pure troll BS. But expect more of it.

 

[1folinepilot]

Ok here we go. It's the, "get them fighting among themselves that way they vote no" union busting gambit. ^^^

Don't fall for it guys. It's pure troll BS. But expect more of it.

Spoken from the flame baiting fight instigating thug himself.



I have my popcorn popped and ready for the sh!t show you idiots are going to put on.

 

[dime line]

Spoken from the flame baiting fight instigating thug himself.



I have my popcorn popped and ready for the sh!t show you idiots are going to put on.

And your different how?

 

[dime line]

Vvvvvvvv

 

[1folinepilot]

Vvvvvvvv

Wise of you to keep your mouth shut for once. It must be killing you LOL!!!!

 

[993_Pilot]

...I have my popcorn popped and ready for the sh!t show you idiots are going to put on.

What a flame baiting troll you are. The real "sh!t show" is the one KR has been giving for the Flexjet group.

 

[Imissmypilot]

Wise of you to keep your mouth shut for once. It must be killing you LOL!!!!

You'd be wise to heed your own advice Syphilis.

Don't you have training coming up? I guess we'll probably be innundated with you on Yammer too. Why is it that you only get mouthy around the times you should be studying and not baiting? Is it to remind uncle of the good investment all your unlimited sim time will get him?

Or is it not the sim time but you're trying to make up all the filthy innuendo again the King you've been called out for when you were once pro union? Wise up Chicken, you'll never be a Friend O Kenn just his stooge. Might look the same to you but trust me it's not.

No one liked you there and over here you're just proving them all to be sage judges of character. I like them already. Can't wait to fly with them and unite against the damage people like you have done. You should be happy they'll be a union on property because it's the only thing then and now that will keep you from being fired for your many personal flaws.

Well as long as you can pass those rides without Uncles intervention on your behalf again and. again.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

You are being too nice to SyPhilis. A stooge has independent thoughts. SyPhilis is nothing more than a PUPPET. There I said it, so go away crying to Uncle.

 

[Praetorian]

Spoken from the flame baiting fight instigating thug himself.



I have my popcorn popped and ready for the sh!t show you idiots are going to put on.

I've gone back and read over some of your posting history. You really are just a small, frightened and angry man aren't you? A wormtounge for your master.

So, just about now, you must be really frightened. You ran off the FX to help your master spin his lies, and know one bought it. Instead the pilots decided to stand up to him. Everything's falling apart for you isn't it? Soon you will be right back where you started as part of an integrated pilot group. Nowhere left to run and hide.

What I'm really wondering is, after all is said and done, and after everything you've done and tried to do for your master, will you be able to look any of us in the eyes when you see us on the road?

Remember, sometimes when the wolf is whispering in your ear, even though it might make you feel important, it's best not to listen to him.

 

[1folinepilot]

I've gone back and read over some of your posting history. You really are just a small, frightened and angry man aren't you? A wormtounge for your master.

So, just about now, you must be really frightened. You ran off the FX to help your master spin his lies, and know one bought it. Instead the pilots decided to stand up to him. Everything's falling apart for you isn't it? Soon you will be right back where you started as part of an integrated pilot group. Nowhere left to run and hide.

What I'm really wondering is, after all is said and done, and after everything you've done and tried to do for your master, will you be able to look any of us in the eyes when you see us on the road?

Remember, sometimes when the wolf is whispering in your ear, even though it might make you feel important, it's best not to listen to him.

That was a good one Slinghoffa. Every time you speak you remind all of us that you are nothing but a white Al Sharpton. A jackass that cant make a career the honerable way so you resort to hate mongering and threats to forward your agenda.

 

[EngineThunder]

How in the world can someone not get through a Lear 45 initial?

 

[RubberDuck]

Whoot Whoot!!! Lets get this PARTY STARTED.

 

[Praetorian]

That was a good one Slinghoffa. Every time you speak you remind all of us that you are nothing but a white Al Sharpton. A jackass that cant make a career the honerable way so you resort to hate mongering and threats to forward your agenda.

The fact that all you can come up with to counter what I've said are insults and personal attacks, remind all of us that I just won the argument.

 

[Imissmypilot]

How in the world can someone not get through a Lear 45 initial?

Not just a 45 initial but now 7 months later with retraining and unlimited sim time Chicken is just now going to IOE from what I hear.

I'm willing to give a little leniency to the first ride especially since our training and some aspects (like raw data ils) are different and a little tough to get used to after years of training differently but 7 months?

Seriously, God forbid there's ever an accident. This goes far beyond some recoverable training issues. 7 months? Anyone remember Buffalo? Apparently not.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Sounds like that makes him qualified to be your next DO. RH is going to take the fall for the union being voted in, then Chicken Little can slide right in. How do I know this? It came from Chicken Little himself. He claims he is the only one that can "handle the union". When he tried his in-house union, he was lucky if he had 10 followers.