I was right again

[rajflyboy]

That mess was just a tax ploy to get money from Ohio/CMH

The rest of us are stuck with the “The OSU” crowd for a very long time

RDU would have given this company options for much higher talent levels with employees

 

[AirBear8]

Can anyone name a single pilot group that is happy with their CBA and Management team?

NetJets will only give their pilots a better QOL when they have to because attrition and hiring have become bad enough. My personal pet peeve was circadian rhythm flips. The older I got the less change I could tolerate. As a night owl going from a 0900 show to an 0500 show would do me in. But on late trips I could fly until 0400-0500. At RGS I told my CP that I was fine finishing a 14 hour day at 0400, but was NOT fine starting a 14 hour day at 0400. I almost never flew a full duty period after an early show unless I'd had several days to adjust.

I'm on Med LOA and to tell you the truth I really don't care to return, even if I had the option to. And that's 100% because of scheduling. I liked the jet I flew, I liked the mission, seeing a new airport almost every tour, some really cool pax, etc. If I wanted to I could make over $200K/yr, in fact I did that on the CC76 and with 20/20 hindsight that's what expedited my going on MLOA.

I don't pretend to know how hard it'd be to implement something like an AM/PM schedule preference but I am certain it'd reduce the fatigue calls.

 

[rajflyboy]

Can anyone name a single pilot group that is happy with their CBA and Management team?

NetJets will only give their pilots a better QOL when they have to because attrition and hiring have become bad enough. My personal pet peeve was circadian rhythm flips. The older I got the less change I could tolerate. As a night owl going from a 0900 show to an 0500 show would do me in. But on late trips I could fly until 0400-0500. At RGS I told my CP that I was fine finishing a 14 hour day at 0400, but was NOT fine starting a 14 hour day at 0400. I almost never flew a full duty period after an early show unless I'd had several days to adjust.

I'm on Med LOA and to tell you the truth I really don't care to return, even if I had the option to. And that's 100% because of scheduling. I liked the jet I flew, I liked the mission, seeing a new airport almost every tour, some really cool pax, etc. If I wanted to I could make over $200K/yr, in fact I did that on the CC76 and with 20/20 hindsight that's what expedited my going on MLOA.

I don't pretend to know how hard it'd be to implement something like an AM/PM schedule preference but I am certain it'd reduce the fatigue calls.

I think most approved of the 2005 CBA

2015 had a complete lack of QOL minus the pilots who could hold the cc52

A big part of the problem is the hand holding that we see day in and day out. They need to trust the crews more often. Crews are on the front lines and see exactly what is happening. Pilots also need to talk directly with scheduling. No middle person.

 

[AirBear8]

I was standing at the FBO counter somewhere in West Texas. I had already asked the staff what time they opened in the morning, they said 0700. Next day brief gave us an 0600 show with a few hours before we needed to leave. Called the FM and said I was standing at the counter and FBO didn't open until 7. He said, but the computer says they open at 6 so that must be right!

I think most approved of the 2005 CBA

2015 had a complete lack of QOL minus the pilots who could hold the cc52

A big part of the problem is the hand holding that we see day in and day out. They need to trust the crews more often. Crews are on the front lines and see exactly what is happening. Pilots also need to talk directly with scheduling. No middle person.

 

[rajflyboy]

I was standing at the FBO counter somewhere in West Texas. I had already asked the staff what time they opened in the morning, they said 0700. Next day brief gave us an 0600 show with a few hours before we needed to leave. Called the FM and said I was standing at the counter and FBO didn't open until 7. He said, but the computer says they open at 6 so that must be right!

treating people like kids