i-pad/XM Weather

[JJET44]

LJ
I'm just saying that I flew an airplane with PL21 with XM and all the bells and whistled and I found guys heads-down flipping through screens as much as with the iPad.
It's not the equipment, it's work load management and the discipline to know when to stop info surfing and just fly the plane no matter what your using.

 

[waddawurld]

OK- maybe I'm not getting it... can someone confirm that wxworx, plus a bluetooth device allows you to use an ipad while in flight and get both positioning info and xm weather-- and if so, what kind of antenna is used and where is it best located? I'm finding it a little hard to believe that a couple thousand $ investment can do an end run around 100k+ installations...

 

[ultrarunner]

Wadda, here is the deal:

1. WXWorx makes a box with a XM antenna.

2. This Box, hooked up to your EFB via serial OR bluetooth, will downlink weather FROM the XM satellite. The weather information is displayed on your device via WxWorks software.

3. External XM antennas can also be utilized which yields better reception as the XM satellite is southerly.

4. XM antennas do NOT provided GPS postion, as the XM satellite is NOT a GPS satellite.

5. WXWorx has announced a hardware solution that will enable it's WxWorx box to talk to the iPad. Available in a few months.

6. The WxWorx hardware is about a grand. Subscriptions costs vary, depending upon your need. The full-featured subscription is a grand per year.

Got it?

One more thing:

Read here: https://www.wxworx.com/wings-overview

 

[waddawurld]

Thank you ultra-- did you get a quote on the ext ant (ant + install)?

 

[ultrarunner]

Thank you ultra-- did you get a quote on the ext ant (ant + install)?

Wadda, the external Comant/Comdat antennas run from about 400 to 700 bucks, depending up on style and if you want a combo XM/GPS antenna or XM only, or other combinations. There are several options available.

As far as installation, we're having ours installed during a routine inspection where access is already provided for, so can't get you a hard number on that, but it's aircraft/location specific anyway.

Ultra

 

[waddawurld]

Thanks-- does the antenna share another's location or does a hole have to be cut?

 

[ultrarunner]

Thanks-- does the antenna share another's location or does a hole have to be cut?

A new antenna needs a new hole.

 

[LJ45]

A new antenna needs a new hole.

you can replace your exsisting GPS antenna with a combination GPS/XM antenna and use the same hole. we had this on our Lear http://www.cobham.com/about-cobham/...-systems/fullerton/products/comdat-gpsxm.aspx

 

[waddawurld]

Thank you LJ45- but Ultra is talking about an ext Bluetooth GPS/XM Worx ant-- and I don't know if it can supply the current GPS info needed as well as for any position info on the Ipad (or whatever tablet)

 

[ultrarunner]

Actually I'm not Wadda. The external XM antenna is NOT bluetooth. It's hardwired, and will have an outlet which the bluetooth XM box will plug into.

LJ45 is correct in-that you can get a combo antenna. You just need to check with your FSR to verify the GPS side of the antenna is compatible with your FMS's if your going to use it in that function.

 

[waddawurld]

Thanx Ultra-- I should have made myself clearer-- I understood the Bluetooth side of things- just was trying to shorten the question. I'll get w/my FSR, but I wanted to have as much info as possible when I talk to him..

 

[patq1]

Thank you ultra-- did you get a quote on the ext ant (ant + install)?

We had an external XM antenna installed a few years ago on our Falcon 900 and I believe it cost somewhere in the $7000 neighborhood. It was worth every penny. The antenna in the window would lose the signal on a regular basis.

 

[Stryker]

Aircell WIFI on board with the GNS receiver and foreflight, and I have GeoRef approach plates with smart taxi and weather radar overlay on a moving map. Still prefer the Jeppesen world subscription to the Naca charts. Its a great EFB, if that is all you use it for in the cockpit.

 

[jstanotherpilot]

How bout this ADS stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance-broadcast

http://www.icao.int/icao/en/ro/apac/adsb_2003/wp09.pdf

Seems like there is going to be a way that we can get on our Ipad and android devices through a antenna picking up ADS info.... the same info we get over XM

But would still need a GPS input to our Ipad or android device.

Fo example I can hook my 296 to my lap top or other device to give it GPS position to overlay position on charts and plates.. And then have another antenna hooked to the laptop, or Ipad or android device to get metar, taf, radar and other aircraft positions overlay from the ADS transmissions.

And get around XM and other charges.

I am neophyte at this so I am sure someone out there has better understanding of how this will all work out but it sounds like we are going to have some good options soon as app and program builders settle out.

 

[jstanotherpilot]

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