I need a new job!

[ERAU_Girl]

wow, to many men posting on a web board is much like to many men in a bar... there are bound to be some fights... Everyone here has worked hard to get where they are, doing what (hopefully) they love....

Why is everyone trying to argue over who's regional is worse? Its like when you are in kindergarden and you used to argue over whos red crayon was better. The majority of regionals suck, and then you move on to a major and sit on reserve for 5 years before you can even see a schedule, you finally get a schedule and you b!tch and moan because you arent flying the A330 yet, and your captain should have been institutionalized years ago... and then you become to old to fly and you sit around on your front porch telling stories to the grandkids about how you used to fly a beech back in your day and they dont make those airplanes anymore, what a shame. About once a year you get off your retired butt and you go to an airshow to see the antique planes, and you tell the pilots how you used to fly that plane back in your day with (insert regional here) and the pilot could really care less, and your keep on rambling about how you remember the time that you flew that plane into (insert small airport here) and you (insert not so amazing feat here) and all the while the pilot of the plane is trying to please you and look interested but he is really thinking about the hot chick looking at the plane next to his, and maybe just maybe if he can get you to shut up he can go and hit on her....

anyway.... good luck

 

[Conquest Driver]

ACA Terry, Time to Retire??

Sounds like you worked really hard in your life and have served your country and your employers well.


You deserve a vacation!!! Hang it up and let the punks like me get what we deserve. I am sure you planned well and have much to retire on or have another profession or trade to work in.

60 isn't early enough for some people - I don't know you but you might be one of them.


CD

 

[acaTerry]

Conquest Driver,
Actually I'm just shy (won't tell how much ) of 40. Don't have much to retire on as until making CA at ACA, I've never made enough to pay bills and put into retirement.
I kind of look forward to retirement at 60. You have long enough to save in the meantime, but when you get there you're still young enough to enjoy the $ you retire on. Geez, never thought I'd look at 60 as "young".....
In the meantime, I just want to enjoy what I've worked for without some jellyfish helping it to be taken away. Especially when they speak with such authority on something they have no idea about.

 

[tiktak]

This is for fletcha
I got 2500 h in a 152/172 instructing
worked for 3 freight outfits flying at night packges in any weather, you have to park during the day in the weeds because they do not want to mix nice airplanes with airplanes having 6 to 10 faded different paint jobs. You ground an airplane it better be realy broken or you are out of a job. one time I had 16 MEL,s.
In winter your deicing is a scrasper and if you call the truck you are out of a job.
Worked 3 years flying turboprops for a regonal outfit.
at that time a FO started at 13$ and capt was making 25$
Got hired by an major and I am 12 months on furlong.

Right now I fly in china as 737 capt with 250h Fo's

Before spook some one you gota pay your dues

 

[Flyairjason]

ERAU_Girl,
I'm sorry sweetheart, I'm not impressed... I'm sorry guys, I've tried like hell not to pop off over the silly posts, but she takes the cake... Good God, man, poor me another marg...
Jason

 

[chperplt]

Good God, man, poor me another marg...

How about a wine cooler instead?

 

[Mungusaurus]

ERAU Girl

This all assuming that said pilot has SURVIVED flying these aircraft. I know I went to aishows and listened very carefully when the old timers spoke. Most of them have forgotten more than I knew/ know. You may be wise to do the same.
I know 2 who wont be pi$$ing off young bucks at airshows in the future. Jay, Chper; the dollar draughts are on me.
Keep the greasy side down and, ne te confundant illegitimi.
Thanx, Mung.
PS: look the latin up. TJ you already know what it means mate.

 

[belchfire]

eruagirl

got nothinto do with men hosin' the deck down with
testosteorne or however the heck it is spelled!!! Why Drag
sex into this? We do that anyway, and not for your amusement,
approval or whatever!!! Now I'm upset!

My Grandpa told me how they put potasium nitrate in the food
for the US Army during WWI to well, you know...we still got the job done. You Chicks are as badly munged up by 1)ragheaded
MFs and 2)Bad economy as we are.

I wish I had as much time in taildraggers as I do junkstreams,
but I have commited to trying to combine business and pleasure.
Don't work out all of the time. But I've flown a few...Clipper,Pacer,
Bucker(and that is with a "B") Stinson, Bellanca, Cessna (120&140) and a Student Prince (look that one up, there were only 3 built).

I reminise now...about before when the whichata flak didn't have to have mode c.

ha.hahaha...

 

[ERAU_Girl]

Jeepers, I didnt mean to upset anyone! Ya'll need to take deep breaths and calm down!



And thanks FlyChicaga, at least I made someone laugh!

 

[Flechas]

acaterry

acaterry:
i have to give you credit for all you did, if i would have known all that before, i wouldn't have said that about your dad being a MD and you not working hard, my bad on that side.
what i don't understand is that firs you gave me sh!t for saying that i'm willing to have a better job than mine, then i'm a tool for having MY job (at least i have a job, some suckers here pay for their "job"), then you and some more people gave me more sh!t because you all have been in my shoes (so yuo guys have been as much tools as i am). what i'm trying to say here is that me, like you, would like to have better working conditions. maybe you have good working conditions right now, but i'm sure that when you were in the same position that i am right now you wanted something better(and im sure you would have taken munguramus job too, and shame on whoever doesnt want soemthing better than being overworked and underpaid, almost any flight instructor, at least low timer like me).
anyway, my point is that we are no different, we are all in the same boat, but im a few years behind you, thats all.
again, my apologies for prejudging yuo and what you have earned, it's just that yuo gave me too much **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about wanting more, but i'm sure you are a nice guy, maybe we can have a beer if you come down to sunny florida, i'll buy!

tiktak:
good thing your 250h F/Os dont come to this board, cause they'll be getting a good treatment here.
i admire you too, as well as acaterry, and again, im sure you wanted more when you were screaming "right rudder" or flying squal lines at midnight.

climbhappy:
thanks for undersanding, really, i'll buy you a beer too.

fly safe guys

 

[Flyairjason]

Mung,
Thrillled to see your post, can't wait to see you guys on Saturday!

Chperplt,
Dude, that's classic... Whoever thought there'd be such sentiment to that one... Remember that story, Mung?

Belchfire,
You gotta come have one with us...

Flechas,
(In my best Jerry Springer castmember character) Talk to the left Brutha, 'cause it still aint right... Love ya' anyway, you goofy F#ck!

ERAU_Girl,
Sweetie, can you please bring the captain and I some coffees, thanks, love...

Jason

 

[climbhappy]

about that beer

flechas,

you're all right! dude! I'm a cheap date, so i order by the pitcher.

ERAU girl, you've got it , too. laugh a little, by the way ,are you the one with the pert little a$$, i can't keep you or happy pilotgirl straight?

 

[Flechas]

Beer and wings for everybody!!

climbhappy,
i'll buy the pitcher and the wings (as long as we eat between 4-7 pm!!)

jason,
you can come along, you'll like the place, the beer and the music, and you will love the company

 

[tiktak]

fletchas
read the numbers
try 2500 h and 4 years instructing ( wash, gas, tow ( acualy at that time the rich boys tipped ) file papers and do what ever the fbo gods wanted me to do.
If fou drop a zero from the mins and mora you got to be in the ground

In 1988 hiring mins for DAy VFR single engine 135 was
2500h total
ATP
500 multi ( dont ask me why)
500 ifr
500 night
to fly a lance in southern cal

times were different then

 

[Flechas]

tiktak

i get your point.
but the fact that you did this and wanted a better job (which i imagine you did) doesn't mean you were a tool, or does it? not that you called me that, but there's my whole point.
BTW, is your company hiring F/Os from here?

flechas

ps. you wanna join us at the bar?

 

[tiktak]

Flechas

The company has an ab ibito program

All the future pilots are screened and undergo english, pycholgical and math testing.
Selected candidates recive theire primary flight training and then start sitting in the jumpseat as 2nd officer for about 2 years.
During this time they complete there instrument and commercial certificate. After 2 years they have about 180 h.
Then they recive there type rating in the equipment.
It takes about 30 sim sesssions for them to pass the type ride.
The cost is unemportant because this is part of the entitelment coupled with the aircraft purchase.
then they start flying as first officers, with a lot of limitations.
For the first 2 years on line they are not allowed to fly below 10000. after that they are only authorised to land with the autoland.
After about 10 years they upgrade to capt.
Hope this helps and you see what kind of work I have cut out.

 

[tiktak]

in jet the only time you use rudder is during the takeoff and landing roll.
In flight only during assymetrical trust.
If you fly a sweet wing with rudder the flight atendends will hate you and no more meals or coffee. only prezels and peanuts.

 

[Flechas]

tiktak,
i was kidding about the job, but thanks fpr the info anyway, i know some people from asia and kinda had an idea of how the hiring goes.
i knew about the rudder, but im sure that if rudder was needed in the jets you would have to be screaming Right Rudder! to those F/Os.
best of luck and hope things get better for you.

flechas

 

[acaTerry]

Flechas,
Just to clarify: I did not call you a toll over the job you had, nor the hours you had, nor the wanting a better life. What got me going was the way you told us that "we should try being in your shoes" and that we had no reason to be upset with the trend that is developing within the airlines toward their pilot groups. We had a long hard road to get where we are, and when someone is willing to make the job less rewarding in terms of work rules and compensation, we get mad. Especially when the ones who are doing it are willing to do it for so little just because "they want to fly a jet". My stipulation was that instead of lowereing the standards, which inevitibly lowers the reward, that perhaps these people can work a little longer and harder to make it to the airlines. Just because someone wants something does not mean that they deserve it.
The tone you seemed to be coming on with was the typical "oh then I'll be happy to do it, I'll even do it for less". If this is the case, I stand with what I said. If I somehow misinterpereted what you said, then I'll join in on the beers.....as long as it's not Michelob.

 

[Flechas]

acaterry,
no hard feelins here, and don't worry about the beer, you pick it, just let me know when you are coming down here, ill buy the first round!

flechas