I hate the MD-80 jumpseat!

[EagleRJ]

After years of field research, I have determined that I hate the MD-80 jumpseat.

I just thought I would share that with all of you!

 

[DenverDude2002]

Can it be any worse than an ERJ jumpseat?

 

[GravityHater]

I'll go in your place next time. Can you get me on? Does your security ID
pic have a good-looking 40's brown hair, blue eye guy?

 

[labbats]

I like the fold down pedals. I also enjoy moving my feet from them every 10 minutes when the captain needs to talk or throw away something.

I also enjoy watching them eat on a 4 hour flight, while the stewardess kindly hands me a small bowl of nuts. "We didn't have enough meals for the jumpseat."

*Stomach Growling*

 

[mar]

Method to the madness

*Stomach Growling*

This way, you'll be much more aggressive as the evil-doer busts down the lavatory-style door immediately at your back.

From your hospital bed you'll be lauded as the hero that ran interference between the 230 pound drunk from 11C who forgot his doctor told him not to mix booze with his medication and the pilots who were half asleep after consuming their entire meal without offering you so much a stale roll of bread.

There's a reason for everything.
Best.

 

[shamrock]

I'm going to be stuck on an -88 jumpseat tomorrow unless I get to the airport 5 hours earlier than needed to get on a 737. I haven't been on a 73 in 3+ years but from what I remember the JS won't be all that much better than on the 88.


Times like these make me really hate snowstorms.

 

[minitour]

I'm going to be stuck on an -88 jumpseat tomorrow

I've been meaning to ask...
What's the difference between the -80, -88, etc...I heard the story behind American's SUPER 80...but...what is the real difference between the "80s"?

-mini

 

[Inconceivable]

Get stuck in ANC and that's the last and only way out for the weekend--you'll never find a more comfortable seat to SEA!

 

[ekuflyer]

[font=ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva]The popular MD-80 series is a stretched and improved development of the McDonnell Douglas DC-9.

The origins of the MD-80 lie in 1975 testing where a standard DC-9 was fitted with improved, more efficient, higher bypass ratio JT8D-200 series turbofans. MDC originally proposed fitting the new engines (which meet Stage 3 noise limits) to a development designated the DC-9-55, which would have featured two JT8D-209s and a 3.86m (12ft 8in) stretched fuselage over the 50.

Instead MDC developed the DC-9 Super 80 (or DC-9-80), combining the new engines with a further stretched fuselage, increased span wing and other improvements. Launched in October 1977, the Super 80 first flew on October 18 1979. Certification for the initial Super 80 model, the 81, was granted in July 1981. The first customer delivery was to Swissair in September 1980.

McDonnell Douglas renamed the DC-9-80 the MD-80 in 1983. The MD-80 designation however is a generic designation for the series and does not apply to a certain model type. The specific MD-80 models are the initial MD-81, the MD-82 with more powerful JT8D-217s, the extended range MD-83 with extra fuel and more efficient JT8D-219s, and the MD-88 (first flight August 1987) with the JT8D-219s of the MD-83 with an EFIS flightdeck and redesigned cabin interior, with other improvements. The shorter fuselage but longer range MD-87 is described separately under McDonnell Douglas.

Initial sales of the Super 80 were slow until American Airlines placed an initial order for 67 MD-82s (with options on 100) in early 1984 (American now operates a fleet of 260 MD-80s), kickstarting what went on to become a highly successful program - the 1000th MD-80 was delivered in March 1992.

Following the 1997 merger of Boeing and McDonnell Douglas the future of the Douglas airliners were reviewed. In December 1997 Boeing announced its decision to drop the MD-80 and MD-90 once current orders were fulfilled. An April 1998 TWA order for 24 MD-83s will see the MD-80 remain in production until January 2000.

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[dojetdriver]

After years of field research, I have determined that I hate the MD-80 jumpseat.

I just thought I would share that with all of you!

Agreed it's no picknick. For that matter, 75 sucks when the CA moves his seat back and your legs are dangling off the side and fall asleep. 73 blows as well, 2nd seat on the airbus, second seat on the 777 bad bad bad. 1st JS on 777 and the 767 rock.

But hey, its a free ride until the company/TSA find a way to take taht away from us as well so I'm always happy and grateful the priveledge still exists.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Don't move your legs...

I like the fold down pedals. I also enjoy moving my feet from them every 10 minutes when the captain needs to talk or throw away something.

DC9/MD80 pilots are used to working around people in the JS. It is easier, in my opinion, if the jumpseater not move his/her legs and let the pilots work around them.

I don't like it when a jumpseater puts his elbow on the back of my seat cushion or arm rest. I offer a free ride and get an elbow in my right shoulder blade. Thanks a lot!

 

[shamrock]

For that matter, 75 sucks when the CA moves his seat back and your legs are dangling off the side and fall asleep. 73 blows as well, 2nd seat on the airbus, second seat on the 777 bad bad bad.

Reminds me of riding on the second jumpseat of a SWA 737 (behind the Captain) a few years back. I don't know if it can really be called a "seat" though. More like a shelf you could theoretically sit on. No footrest and about 5 inches of space behind the Captain's seat, good for about 5 minutes of useful motion before paralysis sets in. Thank God I was only riding from MCO to FLL. Any longer and I would've needed help getting off the airplane.

On the plus side, the SWA gate agent and Crew were unbelievably helpful getting me on the flight, considering I got to the gate 5 minutes before pushback.

And for the record, no matter how much I may complain, I'm very happy I have access to the jumpseat. Saved my bacon many times.

 

[Frmr Avro Drvr]

How about the Saab 340?

Two pieces of plywood with 1" of padding. The seat folds to form a perfect 90 degree angle between the seat and back. Now that is what I call comfort!

The mainline guys didn't complain much though since we were their ride home. They were just glad we were going their way. I did feel bad for them though.

 

[Flyeys]

After years of field research, I have determined that I hate the MD-80 jumpseat.

I just thought I would share that with all of you!

Its not called the "Mad Dog" for nothing. and the ERJ jumpseat sucks if you are over 4' tall, especially on the single FMS aircraft when the pilots have to reach betwen your legs to reach it. not fun

 

[Wankel7]

After years of field research, I have determined that I hate the MD-80 jumpseat.

I just thought I would share that with all of you!

Quit Ur bitchn'!

At least YOU have the privilege to jump seat in the cockpit.



135 Freight dog



Wankel7

 

[Axel]

Any seat that gets you where you need to be is a good seat.

 

[millhouse21]

I just got a ride on a 777 jumpseat and I must say that it was WAY more comfy than the seat I regularly fly (EMB-145). I mean, more comfy than the pilot seat.
Having said that, is a comfy jumpseat really a good thing? Do you want the feds telling each other how great your jumpseat was and that they really need to go try it? Give me short, uncomfortable jumpseats any day!

 

[Yank McCobb]

Having said that, is a comfy jumpseat really a good thing? Do you want the feds telling each other how great your jumpseat was and that they really need to go try it? Give me short, uncomfortable jumpseats any day!

I have nothing to hide. I welcome the "feds" anytime. Those of you who don't must have a reason. I sure wouldn't want me or my family in the back of your aircraft.

Besides, most of you pilots flying those EMB145s or similar aircraft don't have the required experience to handle even the slightest abnormality, much less a full blown emergency.

 

[EagleRJ]

I'll allow that the MD-80 jumpseat has better padding then the EMB, CRJ, or Saab. It's just more intrusive, with the crew reaching between your legs all the time for the garbage or the pneumatic valves, the armrests gouging your knees, the WWII-era headphones (if they're even offered to you), the crew's coats right in your face, and passing the crew's dinners overhead without dumping everything over your head.

Besides, most of you pilots flying those EMB145s or similar aircraft don't have the required experience to handle even the slightest abnormality, much less a full blown emergency.

<boxing bell>

That's pretty good flame-bait for your second post ever! I'll let someone else grind you into the ground first....

 

[Flyeys]

I have nothing to hide. I welcome the "feds" anytime. Those of you who don't must have a reason. I sure wouldn't want me or my family in the back of your aircraft.

Besides, most of you pilots flying those EMB145s or similar aircraft don't have the required experience to handle even the slightest abnormality, much less a full blown emergency.

So we need 18000 hours to have the "required experience"?
And this thread has been officially hijacked...

 

[jbDC9]

I have nothing to hide. I welcome the "feds" anytime. Those of you who don't must have a reason. I sure wouldn't want me or my family in the back of your aircraft.

Besides, most of you pilots flying those EMB145s or similar aircraft don't have the required experience to handle even the slightest abnormality, much less a full blown emergency.

So Yank, are you throwing out flamebait or are you just that big of an a$$hole??

And as far as the Fed in the jumpseat goes... I have nothing to hide either, I just don't like having 'em along for the ride watching. Nothing wrong with that is there? I'd imagine pretty much every other pilot on here feels the same way; so whaddaya think, you gonna stay off all of of our airplanes??

 

[Yank McCobb]

So Yank, are you throwing out flamebait or are you just that big of an a$$hole??

I had been lurking for quite a while, and saw how things typically go here. So, for my first post, I threw that out there hoping to fit in.

I suppose I was just throwing out flamebait. Then again, we're all a$$holes to some degree or we wouldn't be pilots, right?

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Have fun driving your car if you don't like the JS.