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I guess no doesn't mean no for Delta

HowardBorden

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Not all legacy forced divestitures were due to mergers. AMR and United were forced to give up assets at ORD about a decade ago.
Well, I can assure you they didn't go to Southwest! I'm not familiar with these divestitures, what were the reasons and circumstances?
 

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Well, I can assure you they didn't go to Southwest! I'm not familiar with these divestitures, what were the reasons and circumstances?

You should be paying for at least 5 of the empty international gates at IAH. If not more. No city should have to double its taxpayers expenditures to enable ONE airline to thrive. It doesn't matter what you think the revenue side of that is, that money never makes it back to the taxpayer. And it's an especially inordinate burden on the other tax paying worker who has to compete with the enabled company.
 

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Well, I can assure you they didn't go to Southwest! I'm not familiar with these divestitures, what were the reasons and circumstances?

Given to Spirit and one or two other 'disadvantaged' carriers (JBLU?), IIRC. Given away the same reason why Southwest has been able to pick up gates/slots ... Southwest has been 'disadvantaged' and shut out of airports such as LGA. Same reason why Delta can now claim they've been shut out of DAL.

Delta's just stealing a page from the Southwest playbook.
 

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Southwest and Dallas sure managed to get rid of the old Braniff terminal quick enough.
 

HowardBorden

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No city should have to double its taxpayers expenditures to enable ONE airline to thrive. It doesn't matter what you think the revenue side of that is, that money never makes it back to the taxpayer. And it's an especially inordinate burden on the other tax paying worker who has to compete with the enabled company.
You have no idea what you are talking about! The Houston taxpayers expenditures are not being raised by the International Terminal at Hobby which is being fully funded by Southwest. Houston Mayor Annise Parker has addressed this multiple times.

"Establishing international air service at William P. Hobby Airport will benefit Houston passengers in a variety of different ways, including increasing competition, boosting the local economy and strengthening the ties that already exist with our friends in Latin America, and, perhaps the best news of all, it comes at no expense to the Houston taxpayer."

The terminal project, fully funded by Southwest Airlines, includes a new five-gate international terminal, expansion of the existing security checkpoint, and upgrades to the Southwest Airlines ticketing counter area.
http://fly2houston.com/0/3921397/0/83280/

Before you state that the Houston taxpayers are footing the bill for the parking structure, again, they are not. The parking structure is being built by the HAS. The Houston Airport System does not draw its funds from the Houston taxpayer.

"While the airports represent a significant contribution to Houston and the surrounding communities' economies, they do not burden the local tax base to pay for operations, maintenance or capital improvements.

Rather the system accomplishes financial self-sufficiency by deriving income from fees, rentals, and other charges.
Surpluses generated are reinvested into capital development and bond retirement. At the same time according to the most recent economic impact study, these airports collectively contribute more than $27.5 billion to the local economy."
http://fly2houston.com/about-has-history

The taxpayers of Houston simply sit back and enjoy huge economic gains brought about by this project.

"Based on a study commissioned by the Houston Airport System, the Houston Hobby International Terminal Project will add approximately 10,000 jobs to the region, and have an additional $1.6 billion annual impact on the local economy. The expansion will also bring in an additional 1.6 million air travelers annually."
http://www.houhobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Houston-Hobby-Media-Kit.pdf
 
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Flopgut

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You have no idea what you are talking about! The Houston taxpayers expenditures are not being raised by the International Terminal at Hobby which is being fully funded by Southwest. Houston Mayor Annise Parker has addressed this multiple times.

"Establishing international air service at William P. Hobby Airport will benefit Houston passengers in a variety of different ways, including increasing competition, boosting the local economy and strengthening the ties that already exist with our friends in Latin America, and, perhaps the best news of all, it comes at no expense to the Houston taxpayer."

The terminal project, fully funded by Southwest Airlines, includes a new five-gate international terminal, expansion of the existing security checkpoint, and upgrades to the Southwest Airlines ticketing counter area.
http://fly2houston.com/0/3921397/0/83280/

Before you state that the Houston taxpayers are footing the bill for the parking structure, again, they are not. The parking structure is being built by the HAS. The Houston Airport System does not draw its funds from the Houston taxpayer.

"While the airports represent a significant contribution to Houston and the surrounding communities' economies, they do not burden the local tax base to pay for operations, maintenance or capital improvements.

Rather the system accomplishes financial self-sufficiency by deriving income from fees, rentals, and other charges.
Surpluses generated are reinvested into capital development and bond retirement. At the same time according to the most recent economic impact study, these airports collectively contribute more than $27.5 billion to the local economy."
http://fly2houston.com/about-has-history

The taxpayers of Houston simply sit back and enjoy huge economic gains brought about by this project.

"Based on a study commissioned by the Houston Airport System, the Houston Hobby International Terminal Project will add approximately 10,000 jobs to the region, and have an additional $1.6 billion annual impact on the local economy. The expansion will also bring in an additional 1.6 million air travelers annually."
http://www.houhobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Houston-Hobby-Media-Kit.pdf

while you're quoting all that BS, don't forget to include the same bs data from those same sources that said ur bring 10,000 jobs, $100 fare to Bogota, and 1bil to the economy. You know, the part SWA wants to distance itself from?? You=joke
 
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