I Don't Believe This!

[Typhoon1244]

All I want to do is take my father, a retired airline pilot, to the airport to meet one of our chief pilots, see our operation, and check out the inside of a CRJ. Before September 11th, I could've done it any time I wanted.

My father was born in Tennessee. His father was born in Florida and his mother in Alabama. The only times he traveled out of the country was as a pilot. The words "Al-," "bin," or "Abu" don't appear anywhere in his name.

You would think it would be a simple matter for me, with my current SIDA badge, to escort an old man into the Dallas-Fort Worth airport, right?

Guess again.

Thank you. Thank you, Tom Ridge. Thank you, John Ashcroft. And thank you, Mister President. Thank you for taking away one of the most basic pleasures of aviation, the ability to share it with family and friends. Thank you for ensuring that the attacks of September 11th were a complete success. Those nineteen men got exactly what they wanted, the dillution of American freedom, thanks to you and your complete lack of thoughtful leadership.

I know, I know. In this environment, I should be happy just to have my job. I know that. But it's just so dam_ed frustrating!

 

[MetroSheriff]

Call the travel line, list him as a non-rev to East Bumfuq. Print out the seat request on the self service kiosk and then take him in.

Surprisingly, the TSA Nazis at DFW have no problem with children accompanying a SIDA badge holder through security. Go figure. In SFO they made my wife remove my sons diaper because it "looked bulky". LOL

Morons.

 

[Singlecoil]

Can you believe this?
Republicans use Homeland Security Department Agency to track plane carrying Texas Democrats

 

[Typhoon1244]

In SFO they made my wife remove my son's diaper because it "looked bulky."

I've seen some oy your son's diapers...I think they were perfectly justified in considering it dangerous.

Seriously, I don't think those guys could tell the difference between caca and C-4, so it's probably a good idea for them to check.

 

[MetroSheriff]

I have heard that is the latest fad in terrorist equipment and tactics mags.

Brown-tinted, poo-scented plastique. Hidden of course, in the diapers of 18 month-old blond-haired, and green-eyed, U.S. Citizens.

Thank god for Tom Ridge and the TSA.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Brown-tinted, poo-scented plastique.

LMAO! LM friggin' AO!!!

 

[Timebuilder]

In SFO they made my wife remove my sons diaper because it "looked bulky". LOL

We can only hope that said diaper was "full" at the time the inspection was requested.

Brown-tinted, poo-scented plastique.

"FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!"

 

[350DRIVER]

I have had that problem on a few occasions when wanting to take friends/ or my parents to the terminal in PIT for lunch or dinner.... I have had absolutely no problems with my company photo ID, however they have been denied access to the gates and main terminal for the obvious reasons of not being a crew member and/or not having a ticket to pass through security... The simple solution to this problem has been to go up to the ticket counter and have Airways issue them a gate pass- they have never refused this pass has always satisfied any TSA questions, just make sure your Dad has a photo id and you should have no problem getting him through security.


hope this helps, atleast it does at PIT-


good luck

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[banned username 2]

I have heard that is the latest fad in terrorist equipment and tactics mags.

Brown-tinted, poo-scented plastique. Hidden of course, in the diapers of 18 month-old blond-haired, and green-eyed, U.S. Citizens.

Latest new Terrorist Weapon... The "Pint Sized Super-Pooper!"!!!

 

[MetroSheriff]

You need to train the kid for "poop on command."

I say again: TSA troops in the open....


FIRE FOR EFFECT!!!

 

[TXCAP4228]

No poopin'?

Typhoon, as much as I'd like to engage in the poopy side of this thread.....

Is it really fair to blame this President and his agencies for upgraded security? For crying out loud, half of his political oponents are still trying to blame him for 9-11.

If you're frustrated, why don't you point it at Al Quadea? They're the bad guys, remember?

Now for your solution. Why can't you just take your dad to a maintenance facility and show him one that's having work done on it?

 

[Typhoon1244]

Re: No poopin'?

Is it really fair to blame this President and his agencies for upgraded security?

Didn't I hear something once about "the buck stops here?" Are you suggesting that the President has no influence over his Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security?

Osama and his lackeys may have perpetrated the 9/11 disaster, but our ineffective leaders didn't have to respond to it the way they did. George, John, and Tom gave the terrorists exactly what the wanted.

 

[MetroSheriff]

TXCAP,

I think the point that many of us are trying to make by way of humor is being missed.

I for one would be behind the TSA if any of the measures they have implemented thusfar actually did anything to improve safety.

So far, all I have seen is an increase in the taxes imposed on an already over-taxed industry. The creation of yet another over-funded beauracracy. The federalization and resultant cost expansion of previously minimum wage workforce. Not to mention an exponential increase in hassle factor for the very passengers we need to return to help save the industry.

The net return thus far has been to have Congressional Medal of Honor recipients, elderly grandmothers, 18 month old babies, and flight crews being strip searched at security checkpoints, and the arrest of a couple of moron pilots who showed up to work reeking of booze.

Meanwhile, the agency tasked with ensuring our safety goes out of their way not to check the people who happen to "fit the profile" of those out to do us harm for fear of being accused of racial profiling.

Absurd.

As I said, I am all for increasing security. I will readily give up certain freedom if the sacrifice of those freedoms means a real increase in security. What I do not support is the spending of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, and the additional burden on our industry for a feel-good, smoke and mirror dog and pony show.

As far as the ticketed passenger in the terminal debacle, I have to quote the NRA:

If you make it crime to have a gun, than only the criminals will have guns.

Same logic. Keeping innocent people out of terminals does nothing. The bad guys will still get in if they really want to.

 

[dmspilot00]

The "ticket required to go through security" thing... It's been two years, the war on Iraq is over, the war on terror has made nice progress, and Americans aren't allowed to visit airport terminals, not even to meet family members. Trying to pick someone up at the airport now is a pain in the...

What enhances security about not letting non-ticketed people even in the building? Okay, so it cuts down security lines... then let them in during the dead periods when there is no line!

Oh, and are the airport restaurants allowed to give people knives (even plastic) to eat with yet? What about forks? It seems to me a fork would be more dangerous than a table knife.

When I flew in December out of KPIT, the businesses in the terminal "Airmall" had about 25% of the people they used to before tickets were required. They had just renovated and expanded facilities in the terminal, including adding cars to the people mover, but now they don't need them.

 

[Timebuilder]

Because of the movement toward political correctness, we are unwilling to target the groups from which the terrorists are coming.

In that case, we will have a dog and pony show no matter who is in the white house.

 

[Av8trxx]

If you want to take him into the secure area and meet the CP on your 'tour', then why not get the CP to get you a visitors badge for an approved guest? The TSA can't do anything if he has a guest badge. At KSAN anyone with one can be inside the secure areas (with their escort at all times). Maybe the CP will hook you up?

 

[daddysquared]

I hadn't been to an airport other than the GA airports I have been flying into for the past year. Actually, haven't been to one in, well, since before the 9-11 attacks. Well, I decided to take my 5 year old son down to the airport (SAN) one Sunday to show him a terminal and to watch the "big" airplanes take off and land. Man, what a bummer to find out how stringent the security had gotten. I have serious mixed emotions about it. I don't think we can blame George and his administration for trying to keep our industry safe, but at the same time, couldn't it be done while still allowing people to hang out near the gates while waiting for friends, family, loved ones, etc, to disembark? Dam_n Al-Qaeda, All-Crappa or whatever they are called.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Well, we got to do the tour. What it came down to was someone from the chief pilots office had to come down and escort them into the airport. Specifically, it was the C.P.'s secretary. What credentials did she posessed that allowed her to do this?

A SIDA badge.

Just like mine.

I have a hunch I probably could have just told the Argenbright badge screener that I was from the chief pilots office...I wasn't in uniform.

Every night before I go to bed, I get down on my knees and thank the powers that be for the air-tight security we now have at our airports and the bright men and women of the TSA who protect us.

I know there're a lot of furloughed pilots out there who are TSA screeners now...I don't know how they muster the degree of denial the need to do that job without losing their minds.

 

[wmudriver]

Call the travel line, list him as a non-rev to East Bumfuq.

LOL! that was great!

 

[100LL... Again!]

Don't blame Bush and Ashcroft. They are in a dam_ed-if-you-do-dam_ed-if-you-don't situation.

Blame the cringing, craven cowardice of the citizens of this country that shrilly demand 'action' in whatever form.

Cowardice is ugly, and it doesn't take a politician long to figure out that a few rules will squelch the outcry.

Political correctness is the reason that you cannot take a guest out to the airplane. In order to keep away the type of person who fits the profile, we must pretend that 'anyone' could be the next terrorist. This is intellectual and moral cowardice. It is high time that we treat those who have no potential to be the enemy with more regard. We know who is and who is not likely to be the enemy.

Flame away, you politically correct lip-biting, hand-wringing diversity-shrieking morons. You'll be the end of us yet. Useful Idiots.

To those who do not fit this description, please forgive the rant.