How much money is Virgin losing anyway?

[Headfake14]

Involving Luftansa and Jetblue...I don't think we gave up any control...the have just a 19% cut and one seat on the board...

They don't call the shots...but i'm sure there are/were some terms agreed on.

 

[dickie q]

I think Branson does not really get the U.S. airline industry and how cut throat it can be.

Wow, that's rich....may I suggest refreshing your memory about how he became a billionaire.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Hi flyipilot,

1. The $100M was pre planned according to the guys writing the check, in order to BUY more planes. Google search the news last week if you want the direct quote from the biggest stockholder (no, not RB).

2. The publicity was to counter a stock analyst speculating we were next to fold. Um, Mr. Analyst, we are a private company, so why are you saying these things? To try to drive down bookings maybe?

3. The motion to suppress earnings (or lack thereof) is available under DOT rules. May not get it but why not ask. This is a competitive business.

4. Will we make it? Anything can happen and the cost of fuel is hurting everybody. WN controls the pricing with their hedges and market share, not us.

All I can say is do you think the investors will fold so quickly after the hard fought battle for DOT approval? BTW, I ride JS to work as there are few to none seats open in back.

Hope all is well with you these days. Come give us a try the next time we are going your way. It ain't a private jet, but it is a pretty incredible product. More than we ever dreamed of back at FlyI...

Ralphie

 

[clickclickboom]

Here are some loads through the end of 07



LAX-IAD
38.6%* october
49.9% november
55.2% december

LAX-JFK
85.8%* august
55.8% september
61.3% october
68.5% november
74.0% december

LAX-SFO
66.3% august
54.7% september
59.3% october
58.7% november
54.1% december

SFO-IAD
48.8%* september
66.4% october
66.7% november
63.1% december

SFO-JFK
81.9% august
51.6% september
57.3% october
61.8% november
65.6% december

SFO-LAS
48.0% october
52.6% november
55.1% december

 

[mvedepo]

Here are some loads through the end of 07



LAX-IAD
38.6%* october
49.9% november
55.2% december

LAX-JFK
85.8%* august
55.8% september
61.3% october
68.5% november
74.0% december

LAX-SFO
66.3% august
54.7% september
59.3% october
58.7% november
54.1% december

SFO-IAD
48.8%* september
66.4% october
66.7% november
63.1% december

SFO-JFK
81.9% august
51.6% september
57.3% october
61.8% november
65.6% december

SFO-LAS
48.0% october
52.6% november
55.1% december

And now we are running in the 80% during the week and high 90's on weekends.

 

[johnboy99]

And now we are running in the 80% during the week and high 90's on weekends.

And you are still not making a profit. What a shame but those disco lights in the back cabin are cool.

 

[Headfake14]

It just isn't all about LF unfortunately. We (JB) always had a healthy LF for BNA...but couldn't get the yeild up...which is why we pulled and put those ships on routes waaay more profitable.

 

[chperplt]

And now we are running in the 80% during the week and high 90's on weekends.

That's not what I just heard from one of your senior check airman. He said system wide loads are still in the toilet.

 

[HA25]

I've heard Virgin America is trying to get the DOT to keep their info confidentional and they don't want to play by the rules.

and just where pray-tell did you "hear" this?

I love the internet! Where fact is fiction and fiction is fact!

 

[HA25]

That's not what I just heard from one of your senior check airman. He said system wide loads are still in the toilet.

Not what I've seen.. travelled on two flights in the past few days and both were full.. SFO-SEA and SFO-LAX.

More over, be worried about any of your passengers having a choice between you and VA.. I can see some willing to pay more for the experience, it was like nothing I've seen in a domestic airline. Not since I flew on Asiana or Singapore did I get such good service.