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SSDD said:
WOW! Listen to you guys rationalize having to pay for the iPad. Some of you can be talked into anything...
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So how did they talk you into buying a chart case? Do you use your own headset? Just wondering... or did you somehow talk your employer to buy these for you. You rationalize away how there is a difference. Please don't say "Traditionally pilots have been required to provide their own flight cases for many decades". Ipads are a relatively new tool.
 
PBRstreetgang said:
Airside was as a result of those hahahaha, OJIs. Don't you have some oil to clean up?
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Ummm not exactly. Remember after the Colgan accident and we all saw lots of FAA jumpseat audits? Part of those jumpseat rides was pub checks. It was found that Skywest pilots were almost an order of magnitude more out of date on their Jepp updates than the rest of the industry. Ya see, ASA had 4 guys go work for the FAA after SLC closed. I am friends with 3 of them. They all confirmed this independently. Skywest was given the option to avoid a huge fine and media turmoil by "making sure our pilots are never out of date". Thats how you got Airside. If OJI's were the reason, we would all have them, since Skywest Inc self insures all of its employees.
 
ASApuppy said:
Ummm not exactly. Remember after the Colgan accident and we all saw lots of FAA jumpseat audits? Part of those jumpseat rides was pub checks. It was found that Skywest pilots were almost an order of magnitude more out of date on their Jepp updates than the rest of the industry. Ya see, ASA had 4 guys go work for the FAA after SLC closed. I am friends with 3 of them. They all confirmed this independently. Skywest was given the option to avoid a huge fine and media turmoil by "making sure our pilots are never out of date". Thats how you got Airside. If OJI's were the reason, we would all have them, since Skywest Inc self insures all of its employees.
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Sweet!

So basically, all we have to do is risk getting a violation/dequal/employer disciplinary action and launch an en masse campaign and have EVERY CRJ/ERJ stop doing revisions and we can get airside?
 
I'd run, not walk to the ipad store. Other than security, there is nothing I hate more than the flight kit! Give me another $1/hr. and I'll buy my own jepp subscription.
 
ASApuppy said:
Ummm not exactly. Remember after the Colgan accident and we all saw lots of FAA jumpseat audits? Part of those jumpseat rides was pub checks. It was found that Skywest pilots were almost an order of magnitude more out of date on their Jepp updates than the rest of the industry. Ya see, ASA had 4 guys go work for the FAA after SLC closed. I am friends with 3 of them. They all confirmed this independently. Skywest was given the option to avoid a huge fine and media turmoil by "making sure our pilots are never out of date". Thats how you got Airside. If OJI's were the reason, we would all have them, since Skywest Inc self insures all of its employees.
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This has been discussed in depth, so where are they now....
 
russtgol said:
PBR back on his pedestal looking down at others...Hey look at me I'm up here yea thats me the guy with FOUR stripes count them!!!
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You put me up there, can't see the little people without looking down. Too much sand in your mangina?
 
Why should the company have access to MY Ipad that I paid for?

Do they have permission to peer into my flight kit? No.

Will they have the abillty to look around my Ipad electronically? How about track my whereabouts when they develop a crew tracking application. Next thig you know crew sked will be pinging your asz and sending you junior mans while you're in bed reading the New Yorker. Or whatever
you guys read.


These are all things that need to be addressed. And well beyond the rookie language ASA contracts are famous for.
 
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Oakum_Boy said:
Why should the company have access to MY Ipad that I paid for?

Do they have permission to peer into my flight kit? No.

Will they have the abillty to look around my Ipad electronically? How about track my whereabouts when they develop a crew tracking application. Next thig you know crew sked will be pinging your asz and sending you junior mans while you're in bed reading the New Yorker. Or whatever
you guys read.


These are all things that need to be addressed. And well beyond the rookie language ASA contracts are famous for.
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Holy "poop". Why should you be worried if the company tracks what you do with YOUR iPad even though your co. charts are installed on it. I fly part time for a deal that has efb's an they don't care what I do with it as long as I land the airplane safely. If you bought it then its your's period. Just because you want to watch p0rnhub.c0m or whatever gets you goin on the 2nd or 3rd over night on your own property doesn't mean the company has permission to watch. Do what you want to do because it's your iPad!!!!!

Whateva whateva it's mah iPad I do what I want!
 
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And to reply to to the original post of "how much would you pay". Just like the previous posts about $300 bags or $400 headsets, if you want the good sh!t then pony up homeboy and stop knocking the guy or girl or shim in the other seat for dishing out the extra gold to help make their job a little easier and you more jealous.
 
A UAL guy told said one word about the company locking the iPad. Restore. Don't know if that works, though.
 
What are all you cheerleaders going to do when your iPad gets dropped or a cracked screen or breaks in any other way. You gonna pay to fix that too?

And to the poster who mentioned our current flight kits. The difference is, they don't break anywhere near as easily as an iPad. A little masking tape and some more stickers, and they're good to go.
 
At the same time though, an iPad can be reasonably insured against damage. I've been carrying mine aboard for the past two years and have yet to truly damage it, not for charts mind you, but rather for personal reading and manuals. I'd say I use it on most flights, and it receives no special treatment whatsoever. In fact, it's been from the glareshield or side chart clipboard to the floor at least half a dozen times with nothing more than a couple dings on the corners. Mine has insurance, but have yet to use it.
 
dojetdriver said:
Sweet!

So basically, all we have to do is risk getting a violation/dequal/employer disciplinary action and launch an en masse campaign and have EVERY CRJ/ERJ stop doing revisions and we can get airside?
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What if we started a campaign to throw our flight bags at Feds?
 

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