How much airline pilots use to make.

[Kenney G]

The AirTran rates have no basis in reality. AirTran's most junior CA in 2009 would have made more than that by just flying the monthly minimum guarantee, so it is not any sort of average. Add 25-60% for a more accurate range.

It's called FO pay. It brought the average down.

 

[Ty Webb]

It's called FO pay. It brought the average down.

After seeing how wrong the CA rates were, I didn't bother looking at the FO rates. Knock yourself out, pal.

 

[Candide]

After seeing how wrong the CA rates were, I didn't bother looking at the FO rates

The rates listed in the study were an average of all pilots. `Cause that's what we are: pilots. One's status as "captain" or "first officer" is a product of the capricious situation of each company's seniority system, not some divine imprimatur.

 

[Ty Webb]

My mistake. I was reading it on my phone and it looked like separate rates.

 

[Kenney G]

My mistake. I was reading it on my phone and it looked like separate rates.

Apology accepted Im for all pilots making more!

 

[ivauir]

Pilot did make more in the past, but then they had to meet certain literacy requirements as well.

;>

 

[Ty Webb]

Pilot did make more in the past, but then they had to meet certain literacy requirements as well.

;>

Apparently, anyone can make a mistake.

:erm::erm::erm::laugh:

 

[S3sundowner]

It's all good Ty, we forgive you. But pretty soon, the AVERAGE raise at AAI will be $70k/yr! You have to be happy about that. Plus 401k match, etc.

 

[The Prussian]

I did notice Ty's been kinda (a lot) giggly these past four months.

 

[Ty Webb]

It's all good Ty, we forgive you. But pretty soon, the AVERAGE raise at AAI will be $70k/yr! You have to be happy about that. Plus 401k match, etc.

I'll agree with you that it will mean more pay for most AAI pilots, but I'll wait for the info to come out from the MC's as to what it will mean exactly.

Not sure I understand your point about the 401K match ... AAI pilots have a better ratio right now; a total of 11.5% contribution from the Company if the pilot even contributes just 1%. Granted, it's based on a lower pay structure, but it is a higher percentage (11.5% versus 9.5%). We'd all be better off if SWAPA could negotiate our retirement contribution for the combined list.

 

[densoo]

I'd love to see this chart adjusted for hard time pay and soft time pay. At one airline the pay in this chart could be based on 85 hours of in-the-seat flying. At another it could be based on 60 hours of flying and 25 hours due to rigs, overrides, incentives, etc.

A "pay per hour" benefit chart could tell a vastly different story.

 

[S3sundowner]

SWA pays 9.3% of what you make into a 401k (16.5k) then the overage goes into other accounts. Plus profit sharing averaging 10% historically. So, 9.3% on the average of $175k plus another 10% is well in excess of $30k. I think that trumps 11.5%. But it doesn't hurt to ask for more.

 

[Ty Webb]

I did notice Ty's been kinda (a lot) giggly these past four months.

I've been "Giggity", not giggly . . . .

Seriously, like most Pilots, I am too much of a pragmatist to get excited about something until it actually happens. Maybe when I see all those golden parachutes start popping open, I'll get all choked up like Boehner. :laugh:

 

[Uppercrust]

I've been "Giggity", not giggly . . . .

Seriously, like most Pilots, I am too much of a pragmatist to get excited about something until it actually happens. Maybe when I see all those golden parachutes start popping open, I'll get all choked up like Boehner. :laugh:

Is there a new man in your in life?

 

[PropPiedmont]

Is there a new man in your in life?

Says the guy with a Brokeback Mountain avatar.....