How Many Republic pilots out earn usair e190 capts??

[waveflyer]

So RAH doesn't have cancellation pay?
What about rigs? Daily? Trip/TAFB?

I agree with the potential and if I were at republic, I'd leave for USAIR- this isn't me saying republic is better- it's me pointing out the insanity of the USAPA stand where they can't negotiate for better rates -

I'd say most mainline capts are pulling in about $80k and FOs are doing $35k moving slowly up to $45k

The point is republic rates are comparable to mainline- and most expect a much higher earning potential to make the jump- if you get stuck on the 190 like some have been since '07 thats not happening-

So says Swa fluff...:-/

 

[LearLove]

if you get stuck on the 190 like some have been since '07 thats not happening-

I don't know where you get your information from but no one at US Air has been stuck on the 190 since 07.

From about number 30 and senior for 190 FO's are guys who choose to stay on it for one reason or another. Every FO below #30 (there are about 75 FO's for the 15 190's) is either a recall (08-09 furlough) or hired this past summer. In fact a good number of guys recalled in the past year and hired this summer are on or are in training for group 2.

The only time since the 190's came to AAA that guys have been forced onto it was back in the summer of 08 during the fuel spike furloughs - and most of those guys were able to bid off it by fall 09.

 

[BoilerUP]

Largest aircraft at RAH (not counting F9 Airbusses) vs. smallest aircraft at LCC - got to take that into account somehow.

That said, even with looming retirements out East and recent profits, going to Airways is still a gamble I just can't wrap my head around.

 

[chqflyer]

Largest aircraft at RAH (not counting F9 Airbusses) vs. smallest aircraft at LCC - got to take that into account somehow.

That said, even with looming retirements out East and recent profits, going to Airways is still a gamble I just can't wrap my head around.

Going to Airways is a gamble with much better odds than sticking around RAH.

 

[BoilerUP]

Going to Airways is a gamble with much better odds than sticking around RAH.

No argument there.

You make your bets and take your chances...

 

[waveflyer]

Man Lear-
I'm relatively young, but I've been doing this long enough to know that some will get stuck- best example are the glut of various rj fo's that got stuck on FO pay bc al negotiating capital was spent on capt rates bc no one spent longer than a year or two as an FO.....:-/

+1 on the comments above- I would leave any regional for usair- I find no long term security at any regional- and I do praise AAA pilots for getting the aircraft onto the mainline side of things-

No dog in the east/west fight, but think the stand is financially dumb and puts downward pressure on all pilot wages-

As a swa guy, I hate their airbus wages, where our FO's far out earn their captains-
RAH is as underpaid as any regional- republic's negotiating ability is tripped up by us air's 190 rates- so is jetblu's-

They will get higher rates as soon as they stop this silly fight-

Just pointing out that the actions of every pilot group affect every other one

 

[JoeMerchant]

wafeflyer, you are proving my point that for me....I get paid more to fly a 50 seater for delta than the USair mainline guys fly the E190 for...Getting these airplanes to the mainline will mean flying them for less than the regionals are flying them for...Which do you want?

 

[waveflyer]

I'm sorry Joey- you're capable of having a point?

 

[kf4amu]

wafeflyer, you are proving my point that for me....I get paid more to fly a 50 seater for delta than the USair mainline guys fly the E190 for...Getting these airplanes to the mainline will mean flying them for less than the regionals are flying them for...Which do you want?

Probably true, but it took longer to get to that point. You have what is called a "sunk cost", so regardless of the amount, it's pointless to factor it into a career decision. 10 years at a regional to equal 3 years at a major doesn't matter once you've made the plunge. You're already there. Can't go back.

For those that are considering making a move...it matters greatly.

 

[$$$4nothin]

wafeflyer, you are proving my point that for me....I get paid more to fly a 50 seater for delta than the USair mainline guys fly the E190 for...Getting these airplanes to the mainline will mean flying them for less than the regionals are flying them for...Which do you want?

Do yourself a favor and see what you will be makeing at RAH in 6 years. Compare that to what you will be making at Airways in 6 years. Have some forsight. Easy decision. Go to Airways

 

[XJAVRO]

Regarding RAH pay rates. I have several friends around 9 years on the pay scale at RAH haveing just left there myself. If you bust your ass (working 18 day a month or so) and are a check airmen you can break the 100K number at RAH. A more typical 190 Capt. makes around 85-90K a year with 15 days off a month average. FO's top out around 35-40K a year as the FO pay scale is the same for every plane at RAH

That's just sad. I make more then that on a 50 seater, and don't work very hard. You guys realy need a better contract.

 

[Sig]

That's just sad. I make more then that on a 50 seater, and don't work very hard. You guys realy need a better contract.

Wait- the fella said he left RAH. He didn't say he left RAH and is now a USAirways CA (unless $$$ went back in time some 14 years and flew for USAir)- so where is the authority? APC payscales? A friend of a buddy who heard once this one time at band camp?

I don't know, I'm just asking.

And I fly a 50 seater too- one that makes money by the way- and I'm nervous for my immediate future at my airline.

 

[ex j-41]

Within six years, us airways could merge with American. Could mean layoffs. Where as if you stuck it out at a regional you would be much better off financially.
Plus for the first seven years at Airways you only get 1 week of vacation.
Disgusting. Airways is bringing down the industry and I just can't support that.