HOW MANY more is Mesaba going to hire

[cvoav8r]

China?!

I think we should skip out on this whole flying thing and start a sailing charter business> what do ya think?!

 

[AvroJockey]

I've beeen here five yeARS UPGRADED downgraded, f**** so many time by this company it's sick. Do not come here this place sucks if your a FNG your not even worth talking to unless you've been here 6 months because your probably going to get furloughed at least three to four times. As far CRJ's goes I ve heard were going to get CRJ in MSP. DTW, MEM, LAX, BOS, CVG, ATL and every other city in the lower 48 for the past five years and I've seen zippo!!!! As far as upgrading in two years go to pinnacle and fly with a bunch camel back water wearing F**** who are a bunch of idiots on the radio and even worse in the air and if you think I lying just ask any ATC dude in DTW, MSP or MEM. I have to listen to these idiots everyday. I can't beleive were losing to these guys!!!!

Now hold on!!!
I've been in the same boat you have for the past year and a half. I've been upgraded, downgraded, in the Avro and the Saab. I've seen both seats in both aircraft, and have been through 6 training events in the past 1.5 years. Minus our contract negotiations, this company is very good to work for!

Training is excellent, middle management is good (a few exceptions), and crew scheduling is good (always willing to help for commuting, and releasing early).

You need to relax, and be a professional! My family saw much heartache, when my pay was halved during the downturn. Do you see me bitching?

 

[captpetefam]

Classes reduced but running...

Just talked with Training Department:

Class will be reduced to approx. 10 new hires per month BUT they are planning classes each month untill MARCH 2005!

(my lawyer requested I add this disclaimer regarding the following statement to avoid sensless whining from people who are pesimistic and bitter) Obviously many things can change from now untill March 2005 but the mood was very happy and hopeful for some more aircraft soon. Even if no new jets come to XJ, classes untill next March sound nice. I would have to believe the guys who have been sittin' reserve for the last few years will be doing alright.

Blue Side Up!
captpetefam
Rom. 8:18

 

[xjcaptain]

Just saw another vacancy for 10 FO's for a June 4 class. I think the split was 6 AVRO, 4 Saab, but I'm not sure.

 

[Crizz]

Re: Classes reduced but running...

Just talked with Training Department:

Class will be reduced to approx. 10 new hires per month BUT they are planning classes each month untill MARCH 2005!

(my lawyer requested I add this disclaimer regarding the following statement to avoid sensless whining from people who are pesimistic and bitter) Obviously many things can change from now untill March 2005 but the mood was very happy and hopeful for some more aircraft soon. Even if no new jets come to XJ, classes untill next March sound nice. I would have to believe the guys who have been sittin' reserve for the last few years will be doing alright.

Blue Side Up!
captpetefam
Rom. 8:18

Easy there tiger... dont be starting any rumors. You think we need the competition?

 

[scabseeker]

We may be running new hire classes but the latest vacancy notice only shows spots for 2 Saab captains. Looks like if you are still on reserve it's gonna stay that way. A new airplane will be the only thing to solve this logjam and those won't be announced until both NWA and Pinnacle are well into negotiations.

 

[Gator1999]

That's great that there are still people out there that want to be a part of this airline. Unfortunately, Mesaba hasn't experienced any growth in several years now. I have been here for a few years and am patiently hoping for an upgrade in the near future, however, I am not convinced that Mesaba possesses the kind of growth potential as it once did in the past. Therefore, I believe that it will never be the size of Comair, Continental Express or Eagle. Mesaba is a company that has very deep roots in the Midwest and will never seek to become the biggest and the grandest in the land. Whatever potential Mesaba still has all depends on big brother and whatever scraps they choose to throw our way. I don't know about other people here at Mesaba, but in the few years that I have been here, I have never heard a lot of interest from the Northwest side to make us bigger than we already are.

I have heard that we plan on hiring as many as 100 by the end of the year, however, that number is only to allow for the added flying that NWA has given us. You all know what happens when they reduce our flying schedules as they have numerous times in the recent past. (I'm sure that those that have been furloughed and recalled a few times can attest to that.) Best of luck to those new hires and interviewees.

 

[Gator1999]

As a side note, I think that it's sad that a crewmember tries to sell a POM on ebay to try and make some money. To whoever it was, you are a disgrace to your Mesaba brothers and sisters.

 

[avrodriverj85]

Don't talk too much.

Just some words of advice for the new-hires. Plan on sitting reserve for a LONG time and with the companys track record, a furlough notice in September. If you make it past that, good for you. Also, don't go around the crew rooms jawing about upgrades. There are FO's here that have been sitting in the right seat for 4-5+ years and won't see upgrade for a few more.. you won't make any friends by complaining about upgrade times as a new-hire. The days of the 1 year to upgrade are over.

 

[xjcaptain]

One year to upgrade?.....When did that ever happen?

 

[sf3boy]

When did that happen??? Are you joking??? Try 1996-1997. Remeber, Regional Airline of the Year!!! There were also those that were hired with 5000 hours of Duchess time and awarded Avro captain only months after being hired in 2000 and 2001. Of course, they are all back in the right seat now.

 

[avrodriverj85]

XJ Captain

Hey, stop trying to sweep the truth under the rug. We all know that when Bedford was here, that there were quite a few FO's that upgraded to Capt a year after they were hired. Now, when times have changed these same Capts are trying to sell to the 4/5 yr FO, that they need to stop complaining about upgrades and that they need to "pay there dues".

I sat in the crew room the other day and listened to a group of Captains whining that they are tired of listening to the 5 year FO in the right seat, bitch about not upgrading, same guys who back in 96' slid into XJ with a CFI & 900 hrs from UND and upgraded in a year..

Talk about forgetting where they came from. These are the same Captains that probably voted "yes" for the "no-cost contract".

Thanks to Wychor and his ALPA pussies, the 4/5 year FO is still carrying the load, a burden you never carried, so you can make your $80k per year. So stop crying.