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I'm surprised that Lufthansa is the only foreign carrier to buy into a US carrier at this point.

The foreign airlines are making money. They have the chance to buy their 25% stake in a US carrier for ridiculously low prices based on current market values.

Kind of surprised we haven't seen somebody take a run at one of our struggling legacies. And with rumblings in Washington of easing ownership restrictions for investors from open-skies countries, it seems like it would be good to already have a foothold in this market.
 
You know Air France wants to invest in the "new" Delta. They offered $750 million to help with the deal. I bet they would like a cheap investment, and I am all for it if it helps our credit. It is nice to have rich friends, and ownership limits too.....There have been NO CHANGES in ownership laws, or cabotage. If you think the EU will take away the 15 or so landing slots at Heathrow if we do not allow major foreign ownership or cabotage, you are wrong. The other EU airlines have started or will start flights from other European cities to the US, and those would all go away too. Most american airlines bought those slots at LHR too, and that would have to be refunded. CAL spent $200 million on their 5 total round trips.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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The foreign airlines are making money. They have the chance to buy their 25% stake in a US carrier for ridiculously low prices based on current market values.

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The foreing airlines are making money??? all of them??

Most European and Asian airlines are making enough money just to get by. The Latin carriers are a mess....... The middle East airlines are doing all right but that's about it. The whole industry is in the craper
 
British Airways made $1.7 Billion in the year ending March 31, 2008.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7404085.stm

Lufthansa made $89 million in the first quarter.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aFhYk6uG.25w&refer=germany


UPDATE 2-Aer Lingus expects to break even at best in 08

Fri Jun 6, 2008 11:54am EDT

By Andras Gergely
DUBLIN, June 6 (Reuters) - Irish carrier Aer Lingus (AERL.I: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Friday it would at best break even this year, as the slowing world economy, the weakness of sterling and the dollar and rising fuel costs continued to bite.
Ryanair (RYA.I: Quote, Profile, Research), Europe's biggest low cost carrier Ryanair and which owns a stake in its rival Aer Lingus, also warned earlier this week high fuel costs would hit profits this year.
"Based on current fuel prices and the uncertain economic outlook, we expect, at best, to break even for the year 2008," Aer Lingus Chairman John Sharman told the annual shareholders' meeting.
Aer Lingus (AERL.L: Quote, Profile, Research) said the challenging climate would not allow it to increase its long-haul fleet in 2009 despite its medium-term strategy for long-haul growth. It is also suspending a service to Los Angeles from November 2, 2008.
Chief Executive Dermot Mannion said the airline had no plans to ground any short-haul aircraft, however, though it may consider "cancelling or deferring" some short-haul flights in the winter season.
"There is no doubt in these days of very high fuel prices there is going to be casualties across the industry," Mannion told reporters after the meeting. "Aer Lingus is in a very strong position. We will not be a casualty."
Shares in Aer Lingus closed 4.3 percent lower at 1.56 euros in Dublin, having fallen more than 7 percent after the statement was issued and underperforming a 3.2 percent drop on the Irish market .ISEQ.
"The board remains confident that the company's medium-term growth plans remain on track," Sharman said.
"Aer Lingus has a strong balance sheet ... and a strong management team to manage its business through the current period of uncertainty."
Sharman said its business was seasonal in nature and would be "markedly so" this year, with all its profit made in the second half.
In May, German carrier Air Berlin (AB1.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) abandoned its full-year profit goal and said it would scrap unprofitable routes as it tries to deal with soaring fuel costs. British Airways (BAY.L: Quote, Profile, Research) has also said it is braced for a turbulent year. (Additional reporting by Jonathan Saul; Editing by Quentin Bryar)



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
The foreing airlines are making money??? all of them??

Most European and Asian airlines are making enough money just to get by. The Latin carriers are a mess....... The middle East airlines are doing all right but that's about it. The whole industry is in the craper


Many of the small airlines in Asia that are living "pay check to pay check" are not doing well but the big dogs are doing just fine. Foreign airlines are not going to jump and invest in poorly managed businesses just because it is cheap at the moment unless they have a say in policy making. If you are an investor, would you invest in United without policy making power? Of course not. There is a reason why these airlines are thriving in this difficult times and it is because they don't make foolish decisions
 
I second that motion; Many Foreign operators are not going to sink a king's ransom into anything they are unable to control or have more then a say so in.
 
Already did...its called Virgin America.
 

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