How is FAR 117 transition going

[waveflyer]

To be fair, I haven't cared enough to look it up-

Fatigue policy is always there- but I'm trying to understand what extension you'd get that you'd have an issue with?
Give a real world example- a reroute that flies longer than scheduled?- or longer than max duty per the chart based on start time at home base? Or just your scheduled day that happens to go longer?

Ultimately I'm not that worried about being extended if it's legal bc I'm probably getting paid$. And if I'm on the road, I want the $ most times- 1/3 of the time or more I'm getting paid to go home in which case extend me to the max if it gets me there-

It just doesn't seem like it'll apply that much here

 

[dicko]

To be fair, I haven't cared enough to look it up-

Fatigue policy is always there- but I'm trying to understand what extension you'd get that you'd have an issue with?
Give a real world example- a reroute that flies longer than scheduled?- or longer than max duty per the chart based on start time at home base? Or just your scheduled day that happens to go longer?

Ultimately I'm not that worried about being extended if it's legal bc I'm probably getting paid$. And if I'm on the road, I want the $ most times- 1/3 of the time or more I'm getting paid to go home in which case extend me to the max if it gets me there-

It just doesn't seem like it'll apply that much here

"Look it up" ........ ?

Thanks for answering the question. Actually you didn't, but we'll call it answered anyway. You aren't necessarily fatigued because you choose not to extend your FDP. Is the PIC required to call fatigue if he declines ? 117 makes no mention of fatigue in relation to an extension.

Hopefully SWAPA and ALPA will clarify the crew concept with regard to this rule.

 

[booo]

Ah. Fatigue. If the Captain is tired and refuses the extension, does it apply to the entire crew? Can the F/O say he's good to go and continue? Can the Captain then override the F/O's decision to continue, claiming the F/O is just trying to suck it up to make a connection home that night, but in "objective observation" shut him down for continuing beyond his useful conscientiousness? What if the F/A's are beyond acceptable (for whatever reason that can be claimed on being too tired to continue).

I need an answer! Have to answer up tomorrow.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Ah. Fatigue. If the Captain is tired and refuses the extension, does it apply to the entire crew? Can the F/O say he's good to go and continue? Can the Captain then override the F/O's decision to continue, claiming the F/O is just trying to suck it up to make a connection home that night, but in "objective observation" shut him down for continuing beyond his useful conscientiousness? What if the F/A's are beyond acceptable (for whatever reason that can be claimed on being too tired to continue).

I need an answer! Have to answer up tomorrow.

Shirley, you can't be serious.