how is ATP's 1 day ATP written program

[KeroseneSnorter]

OoooKaaaaay....could I have that name of the airline you work for now? (Im feeling like I need more than ever now)

My how times change huh. The experience gets less and the ego gets larger with every RJ put into service!! 1800 hours huh?

Sorry I can't give you a ride right now unless you are a box being shipped somewhere overseas, but since I am being furloughed off the Whale and my old airline is finally starting to recall after five years it looks like I may be back in the people hauling business soon so I will let you know.:laugh:

 

[imacdog]

I hated plodding through the computer "prep" for the written at All ATPs but I did pass the test with a good score. As others have said, some of the questions really have nothing to do with real world flying. The oral and practical test were done with a 121 check airman and I feel I truly earned my ATP during the checkride. Overall a good experience.

 

[Sawmill]

I know my limitations...or at least I am pretty sure when I am approaching them. As for ego, I know I have no business being in the left seat for a few years! Something I learnied a long time ago is that every flight is a learning experience. As for the ATP test, I studyied the material and didnt even come close to your memorized 98%...I think I scored in the mid 80's as I recall. But I am sure that I have retained more of the material than someone who decided one day they wanted to take their test so they bought 8 hours to learn the questions. Just a thought, would you want a doctor to operate on you if he paid 300 bucks to memorize the test, scored a 71 and then performed surgery? My .02...oh, one more thing, sorry I have not changed my profile...I quit the airlines because the lack of life, coupled with the criminal pay rates just was not for me. I guess now that I think about it, I gave up my seat to someone who is less experienced than my inexperience.
Kerosene: Do you like flying boxes or people better?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I know my limitations...or at least I am pretty sure when I am approaching them. As for ego, I know I have no business being in the left seat for a few years! Something I learnied a long time ago is that every flight is a learning experience. As for the ATP test, I studyied the material and didnt even come close to your memorized 98%...I think I scored in the mid 80's as I recall. But I am sure that I have retained more of the material than someone who decided one day they wanted to take their test so they bought 8 hours to learn the questions. Just a thought, would you want a doctor to operate on you if he paid 300 bucks to memorize the test, scored a 71 and then performed surgery? My .02...oh, one more thing, sorry I have not changed my profile...I quit the airlines because the lack of life, coupled with the criminal pay rates just was not for me. I guess now that I think about it, I gave up my seat to someone who is less experienced than my inexperience.
Kerosene: Do you like flying boxes or people better?

That is the problem with the FAA tests. You can know the material inside and out, know everything you need to know and more about the rating you are going for, be able to ace the oral and practical, in the case of the CFI sometimes a 5 or 6 hour oral (6 hours was the case at my flight school) and still not be able to pull a high 90's score unless you rote study the FAA questions. Why? Because with the exception of a few of the FAR questions the tests really have nothing to do with flying. And in some cases, questions and the accompaning official answer published by the FAA are flat out wrong. I cannot remember the exact question, it has been too long but there used to be a question on the CFI test that was famous at my school. It was aerodynamic related, but if you actually tried to use the knowledge in flight as the FAA had it written in the test you would most likely kill yourself in the process!

Take type ratings for instance, I have done my share over the years and they are by far the toughest orals and practicals out there(other than the CFI orals at many places), but no written required. Why? Well for starters type ratings actually test your knowledge of the aircraft and systems as well as procedures and what if's, something that not a single FAA written test does.

The tests do serve the purpose of weeding out the crowd that is too lazy to study I guess, If a potential pilot is too lazy to study enough to pass a written, then they will surely be too lazy to be expected to keep current on all the important stuff!

The answer to your question? Boxes.....any day of the week....best job I ever had was flying the whale hauling rubber dog doo out of Hong Kong. Considering that I worked for a second rate 747 freight outfit and it was loads better than hauling people around for a legacy with more time off and less daily B.S. from TSA etc and the same money as a current legacy, FED-Ex or UPS has become my ultimate job of choice. Freight lifestyle, with the pay that the Legacys used to provide.

 

[Sawmill]

Kerosene: Disregard my previous posts...I was on a high horse for some reason. I hate listening to people when they are spouting off like I was. And besides, I cant remember a time since my ATPw that I needed to figure a W&B for a B1900, DC9, a 73, or a 72 so Id have to agree with you. By the way, I had an 8 hour oral on my CFI...because the DE was being checked out by the FAA and he thought he had better be thorough...It made for an interesting practical since I had never done any of the manuvers with all the extra weight and different CG.
I almost went the freight route when I quit the airlines in June. Would have loved to had made it to FedEx or UPS one day but it is not to be. I sort of figured that box flying was better than people flying. Sorry to hear you are being furloughed. Sawmill

 

[70-SS]

Best 300 bucks ever spent. plus it is a tax write off. The Co. did the atp and type ride.