How does the ATP school work the ATP?

[CRJ_Driver]

Hi everyone,

I am going down to ATP (allatp.com) school soon to complete their 2 day ATP program. I've been flying the CRJ for about 2.5 years now and its been 3 years since I've flown the Seminole.

Does anyone have a similar background and also have done the 2 day ATP course. I'm curious as to whether its an easy transition back to the SEMI and exactly how does the ATP checkride work. I've looked at the PTS and apparently there is no oral?? Is this right.

Ok, thanks a lot for your help.

 

[LearLove]

Do a search on the company. Many threads here on them and guys asking the same stuff you just did.

Like I've told guys before on this:

I used them in June of 99 to get my ATP and it worked out just fine. The biggest factor is your instructor and your attitude. The program is basically all canned so just do what they tell you and you'll be fine.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

All ATPS

I did their ATP course long time ago; about 15 years ago so my info maybe outdated. I did it in Oakland (actually it was in Concord) in a Seminole. The instructor had less time in it than I did but was professional and knowledgeable never-the-less. The plane didn't even have an HSI. If I can remember correctly, they mailed me a piece of paper with a few limitations on it along with a couple of memory items like "dead foot dead engine...mixture prop throttle stuff..." Anyway. The first day we did an VFR flight in the morning: did a few steep turns and a few touch n gos in the pattern and a few stalls and Vmc drag demos. After lunch I dawned the hood and filed an IFR flight plan and requested an SID out of CCR then flew up to Sacramento and shot 3 approaches. One normal ILS, then on the miss she pulled the throttle back to simulate an engine failure. Did the drill and came back for an SE ILS, then went straight into an NDB hold right over the field at Sacramento Exec. Once established in the hold then got vectored back to CCR for an LDA approach, before we got there we did two steep turns. After the LDA, did an VOR aproach.
The check ride the next day was pretty much the same. The DE was thorough and fair. The oral only took about 20 minutes. Asked a few questions about a few systems; pretty rudimentary stuff, nothing to sweat over. Can't remember if he asked any FARs. I do specifically remember him pointing at the G/S needle with a pen before I shot my approaches and said I'm looking for the needle to stay in the donut. I can't remember what the ATP standards were on the PTS back then but I think it's either one dot or half a dot. Please correct me if I'm wrong; it been so long. Well...I hope I remembered everything correctly. It has been over 15 years. I think they closed the CCR (Oakland) office and moved to Long Beach. Well, hope that helps. I think they are like a factory and just pump guys out. Like yourself, it had been over three years as well since I'd flown the PA-44. Got my MEI in it and never touched it again until that day. I think the price back then was around $700 bucks including the check ride. Curious, what are they charging now? Good luck man!

 

[RideTheWind]

Why not pay $5,995. and get a 737 type and an ATP in a level C 737-200 sim while flying something simular to what you've been flying?

That's how I got my ATP, although I had the GI Bill to pay for $3,600. of it.

 

[Swede]

I agree if $$ isn't an issue get an ATP in equipment that you are comfortable with. When I did mine (too long ago), I had been flying powerful jets for years (military) with almost no piston time. The ATP used an old Seminole. While not hard, it was simply different, and lack of a familiar panel ultimately can set you up for problems. Don't take the whole event lightly, approach it like a serious checkride, which of course it is.

 

[Loafman]

Doesn't the company you fly for roll the ATP ride into the type ride when you upgrade??? There's practically no reason to get an ATP before you upgrade anyway. Save your money and the headache of another separate checkride.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

Thanks for the info everyone.

Yes, when upgrade time comes, I could get my ATP. But since my carrier is stagnant right now in terms of growth, I'm getting my ATP for other types of flying opportunties.

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