How do you log your time

[B190Captain]

How do you all log your flight time?

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

One line for each leg.

 

[fatburger]

whole day.

 

[LAZYB]

It's a time in type "thing"

I log each leg until I get 500 or so hours...

Then in an interview, I have page after page of time in ...

After all that BS, it's back to daily. Really should have converted to the little red book and monthly log book entries.

 

[52vincent]

How do you all log your flight time?

IN A LOGBOOK



Sorry I could'nt resist, you knew someone had to be the smart A$$ eventually:

 

[414Flyer]

If you see it, log it

If you fly it, double it

 

[GCD]

Before I went to work for JAL, I would log each month from the company flight time sheet. Well, the Japanese are anal, and could not understand that. It is a custom at JAL to log each leg in the official JCAB logbook. It's like a little ceremony after each flight.

Now, I just log each day, once a month. It takes a couple of hours, so I may start carrying my logbook and do it the Japanese way. Oh well, anything more than 1,500 hours is overkill, right?

Heck, my Guard unit just gave me a 3,500 hour safety award. I quit logging my military time in '91, so I was not even aware I had that much time in the unit.

I'd say, log each leg for the Part 61 TO and landing requirements.

 

[enigma]

I write the O/O/O/I times on my release, then transfer them to my little red/blue crew log sometime during the trip. One flight per line, one page per day. About once every two years I decide that maybe it should transfer it all to my master log. Then I log it one day per line. One day per line works because I rarely fly more than two legs per day. If I fly more than three, I just use use what ever is necessary.
I assume that this is of absolutely no help, but I I've already written it, I can't erase it now.


8N

 

[Av8tor]

One line for each day then I just put all the legs that Iv'e flown for the day in the remarks section.

 

[TriStar_drvr]

from enigma

I write the O/O/O/I times on my release, then transfer them to my little red/blue crew log sometime during the trip. One flight per line, one page per day. About once every two years I decide that maybe it should transfer it all to my master log. Then I log it one day per line. One day per line works because I rarely fly more than two legs per day. If I fly more than three, I just use use what ever is necessary.

I do the same thing.

 

[Typhoon1244]

How do you all log your flight time?

I've got it all memorized...would you like to hear it?

 

[avbug]

Sometimes by the day, sometimes by the several-days. Sometimes not at all. My last log book was falling apart, and coming up on eleven or so years in that one single log. I went to logging individual flights to finish it out, then back to daily, weekly, whatever.

It depends on the type of flying. If I fly with a student, I'll log the flight and all the details of the flight, to complement other records kept of the student. Any part of the line that isn't used for numbes, I include all the details about the student, the flight, thoughts, etc, and also test results or endorsements given. I found a long time ago that accurate and detailed records like that can save one's parchament.

Same for specific assignments like sorties. I'll include all the operational details, numbers, etc...my memory just isn't that good, and I also learned long ago not to rely on someone else's record keeping.

If it's not a noteworthy flight, sometimes it doesn't get logged at all. Also if it's something I don't particularly want to keep a record of.

I know a lot of guys that log by the year or by the season, instead. Some do it by the month. As the log may be used on occasion to figure pay and other things, I generally like to keep a reasonably accurate running total, with as much detail as possible.

 

[flx757]

I keep each leg, and one day per page, in the little red book, then I make one entry per month into my electronic logbook. I could keep my daily flying on my Pocket PC, but it transfers to the main electronic logbook on a daily basis, and I like having only one entry per month in there. It keeps the size manageable.

 

[B190Captain]

I wish I had an electronic logbook since I started. It will take me years to transpose over 6500 into one. When I get a jet job then I will track it electronically as well as the more primitive method.

 

[ShawnC]

In my power/master logbook:
One line for each power leg
One line for the entire day for soaring

In my soaring logbook:
One line for each flight.

 

[Deftone45075]

Would it be acceptable to future employees to have one line per month? (except for training or checkrides ) Or do they want to see every specific flight?

If you log all the months flying on one line, do you leave the FROM/TO column empty?

 

[flx757]

Deftone45075,

I can't speak about anything the future might hold, but I can relate my past experiences. I have interviewed, and was successful, two times with my current logbook set-up (electronic logbook with one entry per month). So evidently, it was acceptable to them. Also, it was acceptable to the UK CAA when they examined my logbook as part of the process to convert my FAA ATP to a CAA/JAA UK ATPL.

As for my technique on the FROM/TO columns, I put my originating domicile airport in each, for example ATL-ATL, then in the remarks section, I include the different airports I flew to during the month. (One caveat about doing this...my program will not automatically log "cross country" time if the FROM/TO airports are the same. Not a big deal to me, but for some, this may be important.)


To B1900Captain-
I understand where you're coming from. I had almost twice your time (over 10,000 hours) when I converted my paper logbooks to the computer. That, more than any single reason, was why I started logging only one line per month. Even so, it took the better part of 3 months to get it all done, working on it during my spare time each and every day. However, I'm glad I do it that way now, since my logbook, even with close to 15,000 hours, all fits neatly in a one-inch binder.

 

[dondk]

each leg into the Palm pilot, hot synch it to my electronic logbook after each trip and add the remarks about the trip (crew, anything of interest).

Once a month, run totals on the electronic logbook and transfer the number's to the paper log.
IN the remarks I comment on the Captain's, line number I held and trips flown.

I break the totals down by aircraft.. that way I track my 121, and 91 flying by equipment only. I average about 3 months per paper page and it has cut down on error's dramatically. The only time I log single flights or events is for PC's or PT's or any line check or other training event.

Doing the regional thing now for 3+ years with 6-8 legs per day, I was burning through pages quickly in the Jepp pro paper logbook.

 

[Iceman21]

I am think I am in the that wants to log each leg that I fly on one line. But from what the general concensus is, I am sure it will get old, real quick.

only time will tell.

 

[typhoonpilot]

I log by the day and have ever since joining a regional in 1988. Before that it was by the lesson for the reasons that Avbug stated ( I seem to be agreeing with him a lot lately ).

One thing I would recommend is having your log book signed by a chief pilot, getting a company stamp of certification, or an official computer print out signed and stamped in case you ever want to work overseas. That can come in very handy during an interview.

Typhoonpilot

 

[dgs]

Prep for the interview

Just ask yourself, "How would I like to present my time to the airline of my choice?" Already an airline pilot, are you absolutely sure you'll never need to interview at another airline? Sloppy or incomplete logbooks don't impress anybody. Well organized complete logbooks may make a difference. An investment of a few minutes each day or each leg may pay off in the end. If a pay statement at airline X is all you have to prove what you flew in the last 10 years, it sends a signal to those who review your logbooks. I'll let you all debate what message it sends.

 

[DoinTime]

I log every out and back. I've considered logging just once daily but variables that I like to log (tailnumbers and FO's) change during an average day. On flights between domiciles these variables almost never change. I don't keep a paper log besides my pay records anymore either. Only an electronic logbook and a printed backup of it.

 

[JediNein]

It all goes into my daybook after each flight. Then into Logbook Pro ~once a week. Once a month, I write the data in the paper logbook.

Eventually it'll go into the PDA and then it's a once-a-month upload that'll take care of accounting AND logging, and the logbook will be just for the occasional lesson taken or endorsement.

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein

 

[A Squared]

Re: Prep for the interview

If a pay statement at airline X is all you have to prove what you flew in the last 10 years, it sends a signal to those who review your logbooks. I'll let you all debate what message it sends.

Hmmmm.....maybe it sends the message that you you don't get bogged down by details that really don't matter?

What is really being asked? the question is: how much flying have you done and can you document it? Company flight/pay records do exactly that quite nicely.

Me, I keep a traditional paper log and an electronic log because I enjoy doing that. It means something to me, personally. I don't however fool my self that it somehow makes me a beter aviator.

regards

 

[A Squared]

Re: Re: Re: Prep for the interview

Speling is also important.

Yeah, speling is important, actually my spelling is ok, but my tiping needs a lot of improvement.

Don't get me wrong on the logbook issuse, the reality is that it is one of those things that interviewers make a big deal about, so you should be careful with it if you have airline aspirations. Let's keep it in in perspective, though, it's a silly beauty contest that has little to do with a pilots skills or professionalism. Would a computer printout of company or military flight records legibally and accurately show your flight experience? Yes, proabaly more so than an handwritten logbook .... so why is it a monumental Faux Pas to show up to an interview with that printed record in your hand. It's a game that you have to play, but beyond playing the game, it has no real significance.

regards